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Rufus Johns Owens 'Jack' - born 1919

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Paul

Paul Report 19 May 2015 21:39

Hi

I'm trying to trace any relative of 'Jack' Rufus John Owens. If you are a relative or know of anyone connected to Jack can you please contact me.

It's really important.

Thank you

Paul

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 19 May 2015 21:52

His death?

Name: Rufus John Owens
Birth Date: 24 Jan 1919
Date of Registration: Apr 1994
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Pontypridd
Inferred County: Glamorgan
Register Number: A73
District and Subdistrict: 8624A
Entry Number: 14

is he Owen, or Owens?

Births Mar 1919 Owen Rufus J Owen Pontypridd 11a 1110

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 May 2015 21:55

Just to enlighten us........

Rufus John Owens in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name:Rufus John Owens
Birth Date:24 Jan 1919
Date of Registration:Apr 1994
Age at Death:75
Registration district:Pontypridd
Inferred County:Glamorgan
Register Number:A73
District and Subdistrict:8624A
Entry Number:14

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 19 May 2015 22:05

Someone eventually got a grant of representation for him nearly a decade after his death

A ‘grant of representation’ gives someone the legal right to deal with a deceased person’s estate. This right is called ‘probate’:

OWENS RUFUS JOHN

Date of Probate: 21 January 2003

Probate number: 1130189

Date of Death: 14 April 1994

Document type: Grant only

Registry: Bristol

https://www.gov.uk/search-will-probate

There was no will. you could check to see who got the grant of representation, but it would cost you £10 from the site at the above url.

malyon

malyon Report 19 May 2015 22:22

looks like the mother was not married


Rufus J Owen
England and Wales Birth Registration Index
Name:
Rufus J Owen
Event Type:
Birth Registration
Registration Quarter:
Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year:
1919
Registration District:
Pontypridd
County:
Glamorganshire
Event Place:
Pontypridd, Glamorganshire, Wales
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3):
Owen

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 19 May 2015 22:23

There appears to have been a possible marriage in 1945 :

Name: Rufus J Owens
Spouse Surname: Bennett
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1945
Registration district: Pontypridd
Inferred County: Glamorgan
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 1057

Spouse was Rose Bennett. Given marriage was during WWII, no way of knowing if Bennett was her maiden name, or if she had already been married and widowed.

malyon

malyon Report 19 May 2015 22:26

could be his marriage

Marriages Jun 1937 (>99%)
Owen Rufus Gilbert Pontypridd 11a 734

there could be one son born in 1938

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 19 May 2015 22:29

Shame his surname varies between Owen and Owens, hard to know at times if we have the right man.

There's possible issue of the Owen-Gilbert marriage

Also possible issue of the 1945 Owens-Bennett marriage Possible daughters 1948, 1953. 1959. Possible sons 1945, 1949.

Unfortunately both surnames are so common, no knowing if children relate to the 1945 marriage or other Owens-Bennett unions.

malyon

malyon Report 19 May 2015 22:38

i can see only two rufus owen births one in 1896 and 1919

he could have been married twice

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 19 May 2015 22:40

True, especially with the war. Could be hard on relationships, quite apart from any war related casualties.

malyon

malyon Report 19 May 2015 22:59

i can see lots of owen - owen marriages i said earlier that he's mother was not married i must be wrong

wonder if the rufus owen born 1896 is he's father but cant find a marriage

Paul

Paul Report 20 May 2015 08:43

Thank you so much for the information everyone.

I'm sorry I was so vague, I just wanted to be careful. It was along shot but if I explain, my Mother died recently and she was married to Jack, she was his second wife and was with him up until his death.

Whilst going through her things I found a lot personal bits that belonged to Jack, Army records, photo's, newspaper clippings etc and would like to reunite them with his family.

It's along story, but for many years I did not have much to do with my Mum, I met Jack a couple of times, but never any of his family.

My Mum did have a telephone books with a few Owens in it, but I've tried the numbers and they have all appeared to have moved on or have died.

Regards

Paul

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 20 May 2015 12:12

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1352104