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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 23 Oct 2015 11:33

A tree on Ancestry has this as Eric’s birth

Name: Eric F Matthews
Birth Date: 14 Oct 1913
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Michael
Birth County: Alameda

And Maries as Birth 16 JUN 1913 in San Francicso, CA. One of them must be wrong. It seems, from later records, that the one for Marie’s is. I’m still unsure if the one for Eric is correct as all census give another name starting with W. The mother’s maiden name does tie in with his siblings.

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
Name: Phillip Matthews
Birth Date: 14 Dec 1920
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Michols
Birth County: Alameda
SSDI
Name: Philip R Matthews
BORN: 14 Dec 1920
Died: 8 Feb 2012
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951)

Philip R Matthews in the U.S. Public Records Index, 1950-1993, Volume 1

Philip R Matthews
Birth Date: 14 Dec 1920
Address: 4709 Warren St NW, Washington, DC, 20016-2463 (1985)
[1212 Waverly Pl, Schenectady, NY, 12308-2627 (1986)]

Name: Philip R Matthews
Birth Date: 14 Dec 1920
Address: 66 New York Ave NW Apt 306, Washington, DC, 20001-1216 (1992)
[4709 Warren St NW, Washington, DC, 20016-2463]

Name: Philip R Matthews
Birth Date: 14 Dec 1920
Address: 121 Waverly Pl, Schenectady, NY, 12308

This is more likely to be Marie’s

Marie Matthews
in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007

Name: Marie Matthews
[Marie Larson]
[Marie Wallis]
SSN: 573169423
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birth Date: 16 Jun 1918
Birth Place: Oakland, California
[Oak Ala, California]
Father Name: Henry P Matthews
Mother Name: Nellie Michols
Death Date: Dec 1993
Type of Claim: Original SSN.
Notes: Feb 1937: Name listed as MARIE MATTHEWS; Aug 1941: Name listed as MARIE LARSON; Jul 1950: Name listed as MARIE A LARSON; Sep 1970: Name listed as MARIE A WALLIS

She died as a Wallis – California Death Index
Name: Marie A Wallis
[Marie A Matthews]
Social Security #: 573169423
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 16 Jun 1918
Birth Place: California
Death Date: 16 Dec 1993
Death Place: Sonoma
Mother's Maiden Name: Michaels
Father's Surname: Matthews

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 23 Oct 2015 10:58

1940 US census
Either Henry Percy is away from home, or he and Nellie have separated. She is described as the Head of the household, so probably the latter. Bear in mind that on the 1940 draft card, he doesn't give Nellie as his contact or NOK

Name: Nellie Matthews
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Oakland, Alameda, California
Street: Howe Street
House Number: 3801
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: Oakland, Alameda, California
Residence in 1935: Same House
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 8B
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 230
House Owned or Rented: Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 35
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: High School, 4th year
Weeks Worked in 1939: 0
Income: 0
Income Other Sources: Yes
Household Members: Name Age
Nellie Matthews 47
Eric W Matthews 26
Marie A Matthews 22
Phillip R Matthews 19

Eric is working in Advertising for Food Products, Marie is a stenographer for an Insurance co.
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Henry and Nellie were still living together in 1937, or at least when the data was collected.

U.S. City Directories, 1822-1989
Name: Henry P Matthews
Gender: Male
Residence Year: 1937
Street address: 3801f Howe
Residence Place: Oakland, California, USA
Occupation: Insurance Agent
Spouse: Nellie Matthews

Publication Title: Oakland, California, City Directory, 1937
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Can't find Henry/Percy in 1940. Will add if he turns up!

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 23 Oct 2015 10:43

U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Henry Matthews
City: Oakland
County: Alameda
State: California
Birth Date: 18 Dec 1885
Race: White

From Image
Residence 484, 36th St Oakland, Alamede, California
Nearest relative Wife, Mrs Nellie Matthews at the same address.
Worked for Ocean & Rail Transportation, Santa Fe RR at 1001 3rd St San Francisco.
[for what its worth, Oakland is still an Industrial area – warehouses, wharfs, shunting yards etc]
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1920 US census
Name: Henry P Matthews
Age: 34
Birth Year: abt 1886
Birthplace: England
Home in 1920: Oakland, Alameda, California
Street: 36th Street
House Number: 484
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1912
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Nellie Matthews
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Native Tongue: English
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: General Chairman
Industry: Railroad Adjustment Board
Employment Field: Wage or Salary
Home Owned or Rented: Rent
Naturalization Status: Papers Submitted
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes

Household Members: Name Age
Henry P Matthews 34
Nellie Matthews 28 - 1892
Eric W Matthews 6 - 1914
Aimee M Matthews 1 - 1918 [1 6/12]

Both adults claim they immigrated in 1912. Nellie was born in England & the children California
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1930 US census
Percy H Matthews
Birth Year: abt 1882
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1930: Oakland, Alameda, California
Street address: Howe Street
Ward of City: City
Block: 833
House Number in Cities or Towns: 3801-F
Dwelling Number: 59
Family Number: 87
Home Owned or Rented: Rented
Home Value: 45.00
Radio Set: Yes
Lives on Farm: No
Age at First Marriage: 30
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Language Spoken: English
Immigration Year: 1910
Naturalization: Naturalized
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Manager
Industry: Package Service
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker
Employment: Yes
Household Members: Name Age
Percy H Matthews 48
Nellie Matthews 42
Wilfred F Matthews 16 - 1914 (Eric W?)
Marie Matthews 11 - 1919 (Amiee?)
Philip R Matthews 9 - 1921

This time he says he emigrated in 1910, and Nellie in 1911. They married about 18 years previously so about 1912

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 23 Oct 2015 09:48

Brigid - before you go to the library, it might be best to print off , if possible, what's here and draw up a tree. We've already put in hours on this thread; it would be a pity if you spent your time going over 'old' ground.

We know we haven't found anything on Ezekiel. There may be others.

brigid

brigid Report 23 Oct 2015 06:09

Yes Detective I have now added this link to ROOtschat ..sorry I haven't had time to do any research ..next week I have some days off ..so will do my best to add to this amazing collection of info . It takes me a lot longer cos I'm inept at computer . I go to the library for serious work ...their screen doesn't flicker .


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=732410.msg5788163


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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 23 Oct 2015 00:32

Bringing this forward as its too late to do anything tonight

Name: Henry Percy Matthews
Registration Year: 1886
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 94

Name: Henry Percy Matthews
Birth Date: abt 1884
Birth Country: England
Age: 26
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Arrival Date: Dec 1910
Port of Arrival: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Residence Country: Canada
Record Type: Manifests
Line Number: 29
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Henry P Matthews
in the U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Name: Henry P Matthews
Birth Date: 18 Dec 1885 – Birmingham England
Residence: San Francisco, California

Additional info from the image.
Resided at Hotel President, Geary St, San Francisco
Worked for Consilidated Express Co, 72 Townsend, SF. This was also were mail should be sent.
Person who would normally know how to contact him – Mr Gwyn, Hobart Bld, SF.


California, Death Index,
Name: Henry P Matthews
Social Security #: 545225755
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 18 Dec 1884
Death Date: 28 Jan 1969
Death Place: Fresno
Mother's Maiden Name: Bloomber
No image, but may be an attempt at Bloomberg?

Its not unusual to get the year of birth wrong when registering a death.
The dob of 18 Dec 1885 would fit with a registration being made early in Jan 1886.

There are other records available which need to be checked

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 22 Oct 2015 23:54

It all seems very reasonable! But as we've said before, unless Maureen is willing to buy certificates, its supposition.

Although I'd thought he might have taken the surname Barnett, it was a stroke of genius to consider it might be used as a forename. Well done Rose :-D

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Oct 2015 23:02

I wonder if Raphael shortened his name to Ralph?

Marriages Sep 1933 (>99%)

Gluckstein Ralph Green Hackney 1b 1326
Green Mary Gluckstein Hackney 1b 1326

Merchant Seamen Transcription

First name(s) RALPH
Last name Gluckstein
Age -
Birth year 1898
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth place London
Birth county London
Place LONDON
Discharge number R 49554
Identity certificate number -
Card type CR1
Date range 1921-1941
Series BT349
Piece number -
Record set Merchant Navy Seamen
Category Education & work
Subcategory Merchant navy & maritime
Collections from Great Britain

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Oct 2015 22:34

?

Deaths Dec 1956 (>99%)
GLUCKSTEIN Barnett 87 Westminster 5c 394


Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Oct 2015 22:19

1901

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Saxony Cottages, 4, Hackney, London, England


Barnett Glitzanstein Head Married Male 32 1869 Tailor Russia
Esther Glitzanstein Wife Married Female 28 1873 Tailoress Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Rebecca Glitzanstein Daughter - Female 6 1895 - Hackney, Middlesex,
Rose Glitzanstein Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Hackney, Middlesex, England
Raphael Glitzenstein Son - Male 2 1899 - Hackney, Middlesex, England
Sarah Cohen Niece Single Female 17 1884 Servant (Domestic) Russia

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Oct 2015 22:17

I think they did a lot of name changing, but only the certs would confirm

Rose Gluckstein seems to have been reg as Glitzenstein in Liverpool

Births Mar 1897 (>99%)
Glitzenstein Rose Liverpool 8b 90

and Raphael in Hackney

Births Sep 1899 (>99%)

Glitzenstein Raphael Hackney 1b 532

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Oct 2015 22:08

I wonder if this might be the daughter Rebecca if Phillip Barnett Gluckstein also used the Barnett as surname ?

Births Jun 1895 (>99%)

Barnett Rebecca Hackney 1b 582

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Oct 2015 21:58

I keep coming back to the Phillip barnett Glukstein marriage, to Esther...I can't find anything after the marriage for Philip...but I have just found this and given her birth place I think it may be them...what doo you reckon?


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
27 Mill St Colchester Essex, Colchester, Essex, England

Age Birth year Birth place
Barnett Gluckstein Head Married Male Machenist Tailoring 39 1872 Poland
Esther Gluckstein Wife Married Female Tailoress Tailoring 36 1875 Birmingham
Rebecca Gluckstein Daughter Single Female Button Hole Machinist Tailoring 16 1895 London East
Rose Gluckstein Daughter - Female - 14 1897 Liverpool Transcription
Raphael Gluckstein Son - Male School 11 1900 Hackney London

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 22 Oct 2015 17:25

there is no Watch This link on a personal message - any reply will appear in your Genes 'In Box'. There will a purple square above the message tab at the top of the community pages.
You'll also receive an email from Genes to your linked email address notifying you if he does reply via this site.
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You could write to the Temple the Rosenbergs attended in Ohio. They may be willing to put you in conact either with Marvin or one of his children.

maureen

maureen Report 22 Oct 2015 17:13

Yup! It seems as if most of the Bloombergs, at least the men, went to the USA. Maybe they thought there was more opportunity for them there. I wrote to Nicholas Rich via the message link but did not find a Watch This to click on. I have also written via ordinary letter post, so will wait to see whether he wishes to make contact. I have discovered such a lot of information and now I must transcribe it all to paper.Bye for now Maureen

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 22 Oct 2015 15:07

This was the one. It looks as if they have been an a cruise.

Name: Samuel Bloomberg
Arrival Date: 22 Feb 1927
Birth Date: abt 1862
Age: 65
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: New York, New York
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Orca

Sorry, naturalisation 2 sep 1888.
Sarah (assuming wife) aged 65.
Destination 163 east park way, Brooklyn.

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Oct 2015 14:50

There are a few on passenger records but I must admit to not liking the way FMP has transcribed, for instance using broad search on names I came across a Sam B... now looking at the image it's crystal clear, because it's typed, that he is Sam Bloomfield , why not say so in the first place :-|

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 22 Oct 2015 14:42

There are quite a few possibilities.

The one I was looking at (before himself claimed the PC) had been naturalised in NYC in 1889. Unfortunately I couldn't find him on any census with a wife Sarah who had been foreign born.

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Oct 2015 12:33

Samuel?

I did start to look at this one the other night


First name(s) SAMUEL
Last name BLOMBERG
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1889
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ SAMUEL BLOMBERG married one of these people
HARRIET UPTON, EMILY TURNER
District WEST HAM
District number -
County Essex
Country England
Volume 4A
Page 135
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 22 Oct 2015 12:09

Who haven't we explored? I've lost track :-S