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maureen

maureen Report 19 Oct 2015 19:06

Yes, all the above info. fits beautifully. Thank you very much. I shall try to add it to the family tree. Rose, you found a link to a Nick Rich that really interests me as his great-grandfather is also my Great-uncle. However, I don't seem to be able to contact him as those links are for a site that only permits email if one joins and even then I am not too certain about that. However, I am in contact with another realtive who might know him. It is my Grandfather he is asking about.
I must now absorb all this info. Regards Maureen

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Article Cleveland Jewish News Friday, December 25, 1992
http://tiny.cc/dhpv4x
Janet and Marvin Rosenberg….engagement of their daughter Miriam to Daniel Blain

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About Marvin - search for Dr Marvin L Rosenberg

a PDF search result

1. MARVIN L. ROSENBERG. 13700 Shaker xxxxx. Cleveland, Ohio 4
Birthplace: New York City. Marital Status: Wife, Janet; two ..

Birthplace: New York City
Marital Status: Wife, Janet; two daughters, Miriam and Ruth

Sorry - can't work out if the address given on the link is current, or where he may live now. He would be well into his 80s!

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Looking at Samuel Matthews and his wife Ellen (again!)

1940 US census
Name: Janet Rose Mattews
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1927
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Ohio
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Home in 1940: Tiffin, Seneca, Ohio
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: Washington Ave Tiffin Ohio
House Number: 144
Inferred Residence in 1935: Tiffin, Seneca, Ohio
Residence in 1935: Same Place, Seneca, Ohio
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Sheet Number: 11A
Attended School or College: Yes
Highest Grade Completed: High School, 1st year
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Mattews 56 - Car Inspector on the Railroads
Ellen Mattews 52
Janet Rose Mattews 13
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More on Janet

Miss Janet Rose Matthews
in the U.S., School Yearbooks,

Miss Janet Rose Matthews
Estimated birth year: abt 1927
School: Columbian High School
School Location: Tiffin, Ohio, USA
Year: 1943
Yearbook Title: Blue and Gold

Actually its an advert

Is your child a Brat?
Is your child Spoiled?
If so see –
Miss Janet Rose Matthews
Kiddy Kare Institute
Bascom, Ohio
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Ohio Deaths
Janet R Rosenberg
[Janet R Matthews]
Birth Date: 13 Jun 1926
Birth Place: Ohio, United States
Gender: Female
Race: White
Residence Place: Ashland, Ohio, United States
Residence Zip Code: 44120-5610
Death Date: 30 Dec 2007
Death Time: 03:55 PM
Death Place: Ohio, USA
Certificate: 106135
Age at Death: 81
Registrar's Certificate Number: 108132
Certifier: Physician
Method of Disposition: Burial
Hospital Status: Decedent Home
Father's Surname: Matthews
Marital Status: Married
Education: Doctorate Degree or Professional Degree
Industry of Decedent: Social Work
Occupation of Decedent: Social Worker
Census Tract: 39035119501
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SSDI
Name: Janet R. Rosenberg
Last Residence:
44120 Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
BORN: 13 Jun 1926
Died: 30 Dec 2007
State (Year) SSN issued: Ohio (Before 1951)
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Death notice, Cleveland Jewish News
http://tiny.cc/74ov4x

Janet Rosenberg
Thursday January 10, 2008 1200am
Dr Janet Rose Rosebburg (nee Matthews) who had a long career in social work, advocacy and education, died Dec 30 at age 81
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U.S. Public Records Index, 1950-1993, Volume 1
Janet R Rosenberg
Birth Date: 13 Jun 1926
Phone Number: 751-1943
Address: 3452 Milverton Rd, Cleveland, OH, 44120-4246 (1993)
[3542 Milverton, Shaker Hts, OH, 44120]
[13700 Shaker Blvd Apt 710, Cleveland, OH, 44120-5610 (1993)]

At the same address
Name: Dr Marvin L Rosenberg
Birth Date: (dd) Jul 1927 [ he might still be living]
Phone Number: 751-1943
Address: 3542 Milverton, Shaker Hts, OH, 44120
[3452 Milverton Rd, Cleveland, OH, 44120-4246 (1993)]
[13700 Shaker Blvd Apt 710, Cleveland, OH, 44120-5610 (1993)]

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Emmanuel Matthews
Canada, Manitoba, Birth Index, 1866-1912

Emmanuel Matthews
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 10 Jan 1910
Birth Place: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Mother: Ellen Warstowsky

1916 Manitoba census
Name: Manuel Matthews
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 6
Est. Birth Year: 1910
Birthplace: Manitoba
Home in 1916: 10, Winnipeg Centre, Manitoba
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Relation to Head of Household: Son
Father's name: Sam Matthews
Mother's name: Ellen Matthews
Sub District Desc.: That portion of the city of Winnipeg constituting the electoral district of Winnipeg Centre, as defined by the Representation Act, 1914
Household Members:
Name Age
Sam Matthews 33 - Clerk with the Railway
Ellen Matthews 28
Manuel Matthews 6

1930 US census
Name: Emanuel Matthews
Birth Year: abt 1910
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Canada
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Son
Home in 1930: Tiffin, Seneca, Ohio
Map of Home: View Map
Street address: Washington Ave
Ward of City: 2nd Ward
House Number in Cities or Towns: 114
Dwelling Number: 231
Family Number: 238
Attended School: Yes
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Language Spoken: English
Immigration Year: 1911
Naturalization: Naturalized
Able to Speak English: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Matthews 48 - Inspector for the steam Railroad
Ellen Matthews 42
Jack Matthews 12
Emanuel Matthews 20
Jannet R Matthews 4 - Samuel's daughter, born in Ohio
[3 10/12]

Emmanuel Matthews with his wife in the US 1941 census

Name: Emanuel Matthews
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1910
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Canada
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Son-in-law
Home in 1940: Shelby, Richland, Ohio
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: West Main Street
House Number: 145
Inferred Residence in 1935: Tiffin, Ohio
Residence in 1935: Tiffin, Ohio
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 1B
Occupation: Station Attendent
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: College, 4th year
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 44
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 52
Income: 800
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Max Oxman 56
Mary Oxman 52
Phillip W Oxman 29
Harold C Oxman 28
Emanuel Matthews 30 <<<<
Anne J Matthews 32 <<<<
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Emanuel Mattheus
in the U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1956

Name: Emanuel Mattheus
Birth Date: abt 1910
Birth Country: Canada
Age: 9
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Hebrew
Arrival Date: Sep 1919
Port of Arrival: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Residence Country: Canada

With Ellen age 32 & Jacob age 2

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SSDI for Manny Matthews

Name: Emanuel Matthews
SSN: 271-12-4585
Last Residence:
44875 Shelby, Richland, Ohio, USA
BORN: 10 Jan 1910
Died: 25 Nov 1997
State (Year) SSN issued: Ohio (Before 1951)

Ohio, Deaths, 1908-1932, 1938-2007
Name: Emanuel Matthews
Birth Date: 10 Jan 1910
Birth Place: Canada
Gender: Male
Race: White
Hispanic Origin: Not Hispanic (Latino)
Death Date: 25 Nov 1997
Death Time: 02:30 PM
Hospital of Death: Long-Term Care Facilities
Death Place: Shelby, Richland, Ohio, USA
Certificate: 091618
Age at Death: 87
Certifier: Physician
Hospital Status: Other/Nursing Home
Social Security Number: 271-12-4585
Father's Surname: Matthews
Mother's Maiden Name: Walker
Marital Status: Married
Education: 4 years college
Armed Forces Indicator: Yes
Branch of Service: Army
Industry of Decedent: Miscellaneous general merchandise stores
Occupation of Decedent: Supervisors and proprietors, sales occupations
Primary Registration District: 7002

1911 Census of Canada
Name: Emanuel Matthaeus
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 1
Birth Date: Jan 1910
Birth Place: Manitoba
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's name: Samuel Matthaeus
Mother's name: Green Matthaeus
Race or Tribe: English
Province: Manitoba
District: Winnipeg City
District Number: 24
Sub-District: 31 - Winnipeg
Sub-District Number: 31
Place of Habitation: 156 Henry Ave
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Matthaeus 27-b May 1882
Green Matthaeus 22- b Aug 1886
Emanuel Matthaeus 1 - b Jan 1910
Francia Waskey 10 - b Mar 1881

Samuel immigrated 1905, his wife & sister in law 1904.
He worked as a Clerk with the railways.




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Samuel Matthews London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911

Name: Samuel Matthews
Age: 5
Birth Date: 11 May 1883
School: Berner Street School
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Admission Date: 9 Jul 1888
Parent: Emanuel

of 16 Little Turner? St. dob 11 May 1883

U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Name: Samuel Matthews
Birth Date: 11 May 1883
Birth Place: Birmingham, England
Residence: Seneca, Ohio, USA
Race: White

Resident of 114 Washington Ave, Tiffin Seneca Ohio.
Worked for B & O Railroad Baltimore, Maryland as a Fieldman.
Next of kin – Helen, his wife at the same residence

Social Services Death Index (SSDI)
Name: Samuel Mathews
SSN: 705-12-3474
Last Residence: 44118 Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
BORN: 11 May 1883
Died: Sep 1970
State (Year) SSN issued: Railroad Board (Issued Through) (Before 1951)

Ohio, Deaths, 1908-1932, 1938-2007

Name: Samuel Matthews
Birth Date: 1883
Gender: Male
Race: White
Residence Place: Cleveland Heights, Cuyahoga, Ohio, United States
Death Date: 7 Sep 1970
Hospital of Death: Home
Death Place: Cleveland Heights, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
Certificate: 066089
Age at Death: 87
Certifier: Coroner
Autopsy: No Autopsy performed
Marital Status: Married
Census Tract: 0417

U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current http://tiny.cc/odlv4x

Name: Samuel Matthews
Birth Date: 1883
Death Date: 1970
Cemetery: B'nai Jacob Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Ontario, Richland County, Ohio, USA
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Gladys Ellen Matthews
Children: Emanuel Matthews

Could Helen on the WW2 registration be Ellen? From the same link
Gladys Ellen Matthews
Birth: 1888
Death: 1979


Emanuel "Manny" Matthews (their son)
Birth: Jan. 10, 1910
Death: Nov. 25, 1997
Family links:
Parents:
Samuel Matthews (1883 - 1970)
Gladys Ellen Matthews (1888 - 1979)

Spouse:
Anne Jeanette Oxman Matthews (1907 - 1974)

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Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Rebecca Matthews
Gender: Female
Age: 45
Birth Year: abt 1863
Date of Arrival: 19 Jun 1908
Vessel: Empress of Ireland
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England

Travelling with Gertrude age 16. Destination Winnipeg. Notation that they were English Jews. Their ticket had been pre-paid

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Henry Matthews 1901 census posted earlier links to this birth

Name: Henry Percy Matthews
Registration Year: 1886
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 94

It’s possible the Matthews, or at least some of the children, moved to the US

Name: Henry Percy Matthews
Birth Date: abt 1884
Birth Country: England
Age: 26
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Arrival Date: Dec 1910
Port of Arrival: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Residence Country: Canada
Record Type: Manifests
Line Number: 29

Contact Brother Samuel Matthews & wife, 4 Burridge Blk, Henry Ave E, San Francisco, California. Henry was a clerk
EDIT - not sure of the Town now - see 1911 Canadian Census for Samuel)

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It might be worth ordering Henry Percy Lawrence’s death certificate to discover who the informant was. Just click on the link below to open a new web page.
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Register then use the following details to order the certificate for £9.25. When it asks if the GRO details are known, tick the Yes button

First name(s) HENRY PERCY
Last name LAWRENCE
Gender Male
Birth day 25
Birth month 9
Birth year 1895
Age -
Death quarter 1 [i.e Jan-Mar]
Death year 1978
District AYLESBURY
County Buckinghamshire
Volume 19
Page 0980

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 19 Oct 2015 11:17

Maureen , I've reported the new thread to avoid confusion. Don't worry about it - the T&C can be confusing for novice posters.

Details Copied over

I am looking for any descendants of Rebecca Mathews nee Bloomberg 1860, sons Samuel b.1882; Percy b.1886, Abram b.1891; Nathan m. Fanny Posner 1895, sons Henry Percy 1896, Stoke Newington; Abraham(Alfred) m. Catherine Zwart 1892 son Harry Percy 1892 Burton on Trent, daughter Violet Stella 1905 Hackney

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 Oct 2015 10:54

New thread started

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1355613?jump=1355613

maureen

maureen Report 19 Oct 2015 10:24

Thank you everyone working on my behalf. I have taken on board the criticisms and am sorry. I am trying to trace anyone living now since nothing was handed down to me, neither uncles had children and I am an only child! To read that a likely relative died in 1978 is quite upsetting. If I say, will try harder, I hope I am forgiven.
Maureen

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~~~~ to RR. Travel safely & see you on your return.
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PM From Maureen

No I cannot copy and paste anything; very much a basic user of the compk that uter. I do not have any further details of the siblings except what I put down. I understand if this is an impossible task and thank you for trying.
Regards Maureen
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No Maureen, it isn't a hopeless case. Its just that we didn't want to go chasing down relatives you are already in contact with.

Rambling Rose has been working tremendously hard on your behalf and has discovered at least one name change. Use the Search All Member tree function to see if anyone else shares the same person. If so, send them a message to find out more.

Although we could possibly find real-time addresses for some of the descendents, only a small percentage of the population are interested in family history, certainly not when the mutual relative was born 100- 150 years ago.

Do try to build your family tree on this site and make sure you register your most up to date email address with Genes. As long as you don't cancel (as opposed to lapse) your membership any one with a mutual interest can contact you via the messaging system.

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Oct 2015 09:38

Taking a stab at this ( before my train... do genealogists ever give up I wonder ;-) )

This death for a Henry Percy Lawrence as per the changed name on army records
( ie formerly Bloomberg) seems possible, the birthday is right as per the school admission but the year is wrong by one, which is not unusual.

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First name(s) HENRY PERCY
Last name LAWRENCE
Gender Male
Birth day 25
Birth month 9
Birth year 1895
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1978
District AYLESBURY
County Buckinghamshire
Volume 19
Page 0980
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records


I'd guess at this marriage, but it is just a guess based on area, the death cert might be useful for NOK.

Marriages Sep 1924 (>99%)

Lawrence Henry P Mitchell Hackney 1b 971 Scan available - click to vie
Mitchell Ethel E M Lawrence Hackney 1b 971

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 18 Oct 2015 00:10

maureen I suppose no one replied to your request for descendants at Rootschat so you decided to try here

I would suggest that you add a post at Rootschat about the information that has been found here, so that no one else wastes time finding things that are not lost

maybe Brigid should have explained this principle to you, and explained, in case it wasn't obvious, that asking total strangers to find information for you about a list of names with no place names or relationships or any indication of what you already know about them is more than a little unhelpful

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Oct 2015 19:42

Royal Air Force Muster Roll 1918 Transcription
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First name(s) H P
Last name Bloomberg
Service number 122987
Enlisted 1918/01/01
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from Great Britain

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Oct 2015 19:38

National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription
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First name(s) Henry Percy
Last name Bloomberg
Birth year 1896
Birth date 25 Sep 1896
Event year 1908
School name London County Council Hackney Downs School
Town Hackney
County Middlesex
Country England
Parent name(s) -
Book type Admissions
Archive reference R/CLA/15/2
Folio / page no. -
Archive Hackney Archives
Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914
Category Institutions & organisations
Subcategory Schools & education
Collections from Great Britain

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Oct 2015 19:23

British Royal Air Force, Airmen's service records 1912-1939 Transcription
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First name(s) Harry Percy
Last name Bloomberg
Birth year 1893
Birth date 07 May 1893
Occupation Teacher L C C
Attestation year 1917
Attestation date 13 Nov 1917
Attestation age 24
Service number 122987
Archive reference AIR 79/1100
Next of kin first name(s) -
Next of kin last name Bloomberg
Record set British Royal Air Force, Airmen's service records 1912-1939
Category Military, armed forces & conflict