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Living descendants of Edward Lacey b Newark 1859

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Karen Report 24 Jun 2016 11:13

Thanks for the look-up.


Karen Report 25 Jun 2016 13:16

I wonder if someone could look on ancestry for me please. I think Minna Elizabeth Lacey may have been a servant to a George Waterman in South Stoneham in 1901. Its possible she went to New York in around 1908 and I wonder if she went with this family. Thank you.


ArgyllGran Report 25 Jun 2016 15:15

this looks like Minna / Minnie in 1911:

Minnie Lacey
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Minnie Lacey
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1887 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Colchester, Essex, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Bournemouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: 26 Walpole Rd, Boscombe, Bournemouth
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Parlourmaid Domestic
Registration district: Christchurch
Registration District Number: 95
Sub-registration district: Bournemouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Household schedule number: 12
Piece: 5851
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry White 52 - head
Emma White 52 - wife
Minnie Lacey 24
Charles Zebeder 55 - boarder
Charles Cornish 17 - boarder
Constance Light 27 - boarder
Jane Wakefield 38 - boarder
Alice Smith 18 - servant
Hannah Withers 67 - lodger


ArgyllGran Report 25 Jun 2016 15:34

Presumably this is the travel record you refer to. This Minnie is a servant, which fits, but there's no other info to identify her. Apparently travelling alone:

Minnie Lacey
in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Minnie Lacey
Gender: Female
Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1887
Departure Date: 22 Mar 1908
Port of Departure: Queenstown, Ireland
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: Mauretania
Shipping line: Cunard Line
Official Number: 124093
Master: J Pritchard

No, it's not her.
Here's the arrival in NY, she's Irish:

Minnie Lacey
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Minnie Lacey
Arrival Date: 28 Mar 1908
Birth Date: abt 1887
Birth Location: Ireland <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Birth Location Other: newcastle west <<<<<<<<<<<<
Age: 21
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Irish
Port of Departure: Queenstown, Ireland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Mauretania


Karen Report 25 Jun 2016 17:32

Would someone be able to access the 1939 register please.
I'm looking to see if there is Evelyn Victoria Lacey b1897 married to Gerald Knowles and possibly a son Raymond G who was born 1926.
London or Surrey area possibly.
Many thanks.


Karen Report 25 Jun 2016 17:35

ArgyllGran. That's another possibility eliminated. Just can't find her, no marriage or death so far.
Many thanks to you.


ArgyllGran Report 25 Jun 2016 17:42

I can't see Minnie after 1911, either.

A tree on Ancestry says that Evelyn married Benjamin Gerald William Knowles "about 1920", and that this is her death;

Deaths Sep 1931 (>99%)
Knowles Evelyn V 32 Kingston 2a 539


ArgyllGran Report 25 Jun 2016 17:43

This will be the marriage (which you know about already):

Marriages Jun 1923 (>99%)
Knowles Gerald W Lacey Wandsworth 1d 1159
Lacey Evelyn V Knowles Wandsworth 1d 1159

This will be his baptism:

Benjamin Gerald William Knowles
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Benjamin Gerald William Knowles
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 16 Jan 1902
Baptism Date: 23 Mar 1902
Baptism Place: St. Barnabas, Lambeth, Surrey, England
Father: Benjamin Garabaldi Knowles
Mother: Emma Adelphi
FHL Film Number: 355613
Reference ID: v 6 p 97

The tree says "No known children". But that's not necessarily correct.

Raymond's birth in Wandsworth, where Evelyn & Gerald married, looks like a reasonable possibility.

However, without knowing what the G stands for (presumably Gerald, but maybe not), it's hard to know if he married or died, or to find him on electoral rolls.


ArgyllGran Report 25 Jun 2016 17:51

Gerald's death:

Gerald William Knowles
in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Gerald William Knowles
Birth Date: 16 Jan 1902
Date of Registration: Mar 1981
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Aylesbury
Inferred County: Buckinghamshire
Volume: 19
Page: 0953


patchem Report 26 Jun 2016 07:10

I posted a possible death for Minna on the first page.


patchem Report 26 Jun 2016 11:37

Gerald William Knowles is living at 45 Mexfield Road, Wandsworth, on the ER in 1923, also in the house Walter and Lily Goldsack.

Not yet found him in 1939 (with or without a new wife).

Could be in Woodstock Avenue, Barnet, with Irene Sigrid in 1934


patchem Report 26 Jun 2016 11:45

Gerald William and Irene Sigrid at 11 Gresham Gardens Hendon on 1939 ER on Ancetry.