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Whadcoat street? it's on the 1939 but no Alexanders at 27

Ooh- you beat me to it- was just about to post that!

If this were my family I'd be ordering the certificate for Vera's second marriage.

I'm still having no luck with Whitecoat Street in Islington- can't see any reference to it in the papers either.

well there are a lot of Mary's and a couple of Herberts but I thought this one might be about right

Deaths Mar 1936 (>99%)
Alexander Mary 49 Islington 1b 350

Herbert and Mary 1935 electoral register:

9 Gastigny Place
Charles Albert Alexander
Herbert Alexander
Herbert Jnr Alexander
Mary Alexander

Charles Albert seems to confirm the 1911 birth posted by Nyx

Looks good Nyx. OK- so when did Herbert and Mary die?

EDIT: A tree on Ancestry has Herbert's and Mary (Polly) death in 1936

matches date on the 1939 reg

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
First name(s) CHARLES
Last name ALEXANDER
Gender Male
Birth day 14
Birth month 5
Birth year 1911
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1998
District Greenwich
District number 2291B
Register number B71
Entry number 050
Date of registration mm/yy 0398
County London
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

I think it's a possibility, having looked at practically everything else lol.

I wonder if Mary Walker who married Herbert in 1913 is the mother here? might be worth looking at

WALKER, CHARLES ALBERT - Order
GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 609

Nyx- this is Nellie in 1946:

43 Berriman Road Islington (note Henry no F initial )

Frederick Alexander
Henry Alexander<<<<<<<<<<<<
Gladys F Rayment
Edward Stockman
Florence A Stockman
Nellie R White
-----------------------------

In 1948
36 Pemberton Gardens
Frederick Alexander
Stanley Alexander
James A White
Nellie R White
----------------------------

Births Mar 1927
Alexander Stanley Walker Holborn 1b 865
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Nyx- I think this family is a good possible- especially given the name of the brother. But how does Charles fit- we know her was living with Nellie in 1939- but he can't be a full brother (unless he was born to the same parents out of wedlock?)

I can't see Vera on the electoral register in 1946- I'm wondering if the couple had already split by this time (I know Sandra was born in 1947)?

Back in a bit- think it's time to open the wine

HENRY F
Last name ALEXANDER
Birth year 1920
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's last name Walkar
District Holborn
County London
Country England
Volume 1B
Page 1406
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain, England.

A copy of the birth cert may be the way to go..



a brother,

HERBERT G
Last name ALEXANDER
Birth year 1913
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name **Walker**
District Holborn
County London
Country England
Volume 1B
Page 1164
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain, England
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Herbert G the father was deceased by 1942.

1937/8 electoral register for 18 Baring Street:

Albert Alexander
Charles Alexander
George Albert Alexander
Elizabeth King
William Edward King

But Kay- father of that Harry is Morris. We're looking for a father Herbert George.

HARRY
Last name ALEXANDER
Birth year 1920
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name Rothman
District London City
County London
Country England
Volume 1C
Page 11
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain, England,

just another mix.

Putting this here while I look into it, wondering if this is the Charles named on marriage cert ???

White (Alexander) Household (2 People)
18 Baring Street , Islington, London, England

Charles Alexander 14 May 1911 Builders Labourer H S
Nellie White (Alexander) 19 Sep 1918 Meat Traders Single

Nellie ( Ellen?) married, Marriages Jun 1942 (>99%)
Alexander Ellen R White Finsbury 1b 1022
White James A Alexander Finsbury 1b 1022

EDIT she is the daughter of the family I found prev' Alexander/Walker from Holborn...
First name(s) NELLIE R
Last name ALEXANDER
Birth year 1918
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name Walker
District Holborn
County London
Country England
Volume 1B
Page 731


which brings me back to the brother of the above Nellie, ie Henry F Alexander born 1920 Holborn, father Herbert.... :-S

Alexander
Age -
Birth year -
Birth place -
Attestation year 1938
Service number 1431707
Former service number -
Record set Royal Artillery Attestations 1883-1942
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Regimental & service recordsCollections from Great Britain, UK None
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So within about a year of marriage he was a civilian.

HAA/S.?=Heavy anit aircraft/= possibly ground search light op.?

Discharged-12/11/42.

Thank you Nyx :-)

So just Henry- no H initial.

I suspect the Harry was just his preferred name and not a middle name.

Sorry for delay Austin, I was going through lists of Alexanders lol

only other info on that entry is that he was "discharged 12-11-'42... above that in red is HAAS but it is crossed through in the same lighter red as the discharge is written

Thanks Deborah-

Nyx- if you have access to FMP can you see what the military record is for Henry Alexander using number 1431707. I can see the result but can't open it

Royal Artillery Attestations 1883-1942
Henry Alexander
Event 1938
No. 1431707

Just wondered if it gave any extra details

Austin, questions are fine. I appreciate the help.

On marriage certificate it says L/bombardier no 1431707. HM Army (Capstah operator) residence 18 Mitchell Street.

March 1943 the occupation is listed as Engineers Caster (ex army) at 15 Sutherland Road (not Street).

In 1947, he was registered as a amolon/maton driver (!?! I can't decipher this) and then in brackets it says Builders. This was with an address of 27 Whitecoat Street Islington - which by my research does not exist anymore but maybe was prefabs after the war? Vera registered the second birth and Henry registered the first birth.

Not finding much, no deaths for a Herbert George Alexander ( father) between 1921 and 42 in England,

The Kathleen A Francis witness on marriagecert is 'probably' the one who is living in Islington in 1939 ( born 1911 as K A Busby) , but gets no where really.

You do not get a lance bombardier in the navy.

Lance Bombardier is a rank of non-commissioned officer in an artillery regiment of the British army, corresponding to that of a lance corporal in the infantry.

Ranks in the British army can indicate which regiment they are in - Lance Bombardier indicates an artillery regiment, unfortunately there are several. The naval links are false trails. At the moment of his marriage he was in the army.

As asked for before - what's his occupation on the birth certs. to see if he was still in the army.