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Stephen Pittman

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Christopher

Christopher Report 12 Aug 2017 06:15

I am looking for information regarding a relative of mine, Stephen Pittman (born 1879) who travelled to the USA in 1918 aboard the ORONTES with his friend James Bradley. I think he lived initially in New York.
He was the son of John Joseph Pittman and Marian Swordes and he had 5 siblings: Mary. Elizabeth, Gertrude, John and Esther. Esther married Patrick Greene, my great-great-grandfather.
I would be grateful for any information about any of these relatives.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Aug 2017 07:07

If the rest of the family stayed in the U.K. Have you looked on freebmd for possible marriages etc

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Aug 2017 07:21

Not seeing his birth or picking up the marriage of his parents


Where was he born please

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Aug 2017 07:27

Ok located them on the 1891 census

VIEW 1891 England Census

Name: Stephen Pittman
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Miriam Pittman
Gender: Male
Where born: Kingsdown
Civil Parish: Kirkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: West Derby
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2961
Folio: 74
Page Number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
Miriam Pittman 44
Mary Pittman 19
Elizabeth Pittman 17
Ester Pittman 13
Stephen Pittman 11
John Pittman 5
Gertrude Pittman 3
Edward Kogan 21

All born Kingstown Ireland except for the younger two chiidren who were born Liverpool

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Aug 2017 07:33

PITTMAN, GERTRUDE SWORDS
GRO Reference: 1887 J Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 403

PITTMAN, JOHN SWOARDS Order
GRO Reference: 1886 M Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 399


So different spellings each time on surname .
Guess maybe it was how it sounded to the registrar



Name: John Pittman
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 27 Nov 1885
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father: John Pittman
FHL Film Number: 2147930

Gertrude Pittman
in the Liverpool, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1802-1906

Name: Gertrude Pittman
Birth Date: 23 May 1887
Baptism Date: 19 Jun 1887
Parish: St Francis de Sales, Lancashire, England
Father's name: Joannis Pittman
Mother's name: Mariae Annae Swords

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Aug 2017 07:35

By 1901 only the two youngest still at home


Name: John Pittman
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Mother: Mary A Pittman
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Walton on the Hill
Search Photos: Search for 'Walton on the Hill' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3454
Folio: 139
Page Number: 45
Household schedule number: 264
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary A Pittman 47
John Pittman 15 occ office boy - merchants
Gertrude Pittman 13


Not seeing them after 1901

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Aug 2017 07:41


Name: Elizabeth Pittman
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 9 Mar 1874
Birth Place: Kingstown No 1, Dub, Ireland
Baptism Place: Kingstown No 1, Dub, Ireland
Father: John Pittman
Mother: Mary Anne Swords
FHL Film Number: 255894


Name: Elizabeth Pitman
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 9 Mar 1874
Baptism Date: 11 Mar 1874
Baptism Place: Kingstown, Dublin, Ireland
Residence Place: Patrick St
Parish Variants: Dun Laoghaire, St. Michael's, Kingstown
Diocese: Dublin
Father: John Pitman
Mother: Mary A Swords


Lizzie Pitman
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: John Pitman
Mother: Marian Pitman
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Walton on Hill
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 38 Winslow St
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: West Derby
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3687
Folio: 56
Page Number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
John Pitman 37 occ seaman
Marian Pitman 33
Mary F. Pitman 9
Lizzie Pitman 7
Ester Pitman 5
Stephen Pitman 1
Ann Jane 16
Oscar ? Mille 27
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Aug 2017 07:44

John Pittman
in the UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927

Name: John Pittman
Estimated Age: 30
Birth Date: 1844
Birth Place: Bray, Dublin
Issue Date: 10 Mar 1874
Issue Port: Dublin
Certificate Number: 6244

John Pittman
in the Liverpool, England, Crew Lists 1861-1919

Name: John Pittman
Age: 41
Birth Year: 1845
Birth Place: Bray
Event Date: 1886
Port of Registry: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ship Name: Servia
Official Number: 84172
Reference Number: 387CRE/762

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Aug 2017 07:50

Esther Pitman
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 29 Mar 1877
Baptism Date: 1 Apr 1877
Baptism Place: Kingstown, Dublin, Ireland
Residence Place: Patrick St
Parish Variants: Dun Laoghaire, St. Michael's, Kingstown
Diocese: Dublin
Father: John Pitman
Mother: Mary A Swords

Looks like there was another daughter

Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 No Image

Name: Sophia Pittman
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 14 Jun 1878
Birth Place: Rathdown, Dublin, Ireland
Father: John Pittman
Mother: Mary Anne Pittman Swords
FHL Film Number: 256003

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Aug 2017 07:59

Both with sister Esther


Name: Gertrude Pittman
Age in 1911: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Sister
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Liverpool, Walton
Civil Parish: Walton on the Hill
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County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 72 Hale Rd Walton
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Lady Book Keeper
Registration district: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Piece: 22373
Household Members:
Name Age
Esther Green 33
Eileen Green 11
Mary Frances Green 8
Patrick Albert Green 6
Charles Green 1
John Joseph Pittman 24 occ clerk
Gertrude Pittman 22


Marriages Sep 1899 (>99%)
GREENE Patrick Joseph W. Derby 8b 1114
PITTMAN Esther Frances W. Derby

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Aug 2017 08:07

Looks like she went to New Zealand and intended to live there
Miss G Pittman. Occ bookkeeper
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Birth Date: abt 1889
Departure Date: 10 Aug 1914
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Wellington, New Zealand
Ship Name: Ruahine
Search Ship Database: Search for the Ruahine in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: The New Zealand Shipping Company, Limited
Official Number: 124582
Master: F Forbes

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Aug 2017 08:26

Possibly John

Marriages Sep 1922
PITTMAN John Shea Birkenhead 8a 1408
SHEA Winifred M Pittman

Looks like it's the right one as birth date matches baptism

1939 register
Pittman Household (5 People)
24 Hale Road , Wallasey C.B., Cheshire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
John Pittman 27 Nov 1885 chief clerk Harbour Docks and Harbour Board
Winifred M Pittman 15 Feb 1890 Unpaid Domestic Duties
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Ref: RG101/3957F/012/29 Letter Code: LDAM
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Closed records are these

Births Sep 1923
PITTMAN Sheila M Shea Birkenhead 8a 923
Births Mar 1925
Pittman Joan M Shea Birkenhead 8a 878
Births Dec 1932
Pittman John A S Shea Birkenhead 8a 702

VIEW England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995

Name: John Pittman
Death Date: 18 Jun 1953
Death Place: Cheshire, England
Probate Date: 7 Aug 1953
Registry: Liverpool, England
Of 48 Gloucester Close Wallasey died at Clatterbridge General Hospital,Bebingtin

Effects to Widow Winifred Mary

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Aug 2017 08:50

A tree on ancestry has this

Stephen Pittman

Birth: 11 Dec 1879 - Ireland
Death: 10 Apr 1951
Spouse: Florence M Berrie


Name: Stephen Pittman
Death Date: 18 Sep 1951
Cemetery: Saint John Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Middle Village, Queens County, New York, United States of America
Has Bio?: N
URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...

Baptism
Name: Stephen Pittman
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 11 Dec 1879
Birth Place: Dublin, Ireland
Father: John Pittman
Mother: Mary Anne Swords Pittman
FHL Film Number: 256045

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Aug 2017 08:55

WW2 registration card


Name: Stephen Pittman
Gender: Male
Race: White
Residence Age: 63
Birth Date: 11 Dec 1879
Birth Place: Dublin, Ireland
Residence Date: 1942
Residence Place: Queens, New York, USA
Address 8532 66 Road, Forest Hills ,Queens NY

NOK Mrs Florence Pittman

Employer Empire Mutual ins co

1940 us census
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Name: Stephen Pittman
Respondent: Yes
Age: 62
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Northern Ireland
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: New York, Queens, New York
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: 66 Road
House Number: 8532
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: New York, Queens, New York
Residence in 1935: Same House
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 8A
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 13
Occupation: Adjuster in insurance
House Owned or Rented: Owned
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 5600
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: College, 4th year
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 36
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 52
Income: 3100
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Pittman 62
Florence Pittman 49
Edward Child 26 stepson

Must have married after 1930
Edward Child
in the 1930 United States Federal Census
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Name: Edward Child
Birth Year: abt 1914
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: New York
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Son
Home in 1930: Manhattan, New York, New York
Map of Home: View Map
Street address: Broadway Terrace
Block: B
House Number in Cities or Towns: 16
Family Number: 499
Attended School: Yes
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Household Members:
Name Age
Florence Child 38
Edward Child 16
Florence Child 13
Neighbors: View others on page


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Name: Edward Childs
Age: 5
Birth Year: abt 1915
Birthplace: New York
Home in 1920: Brooklyn Assembly District 9, Kings, New York
Street: 3rd Avenue
Residence Date: 1920
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's name: Albert Childs
Father's Birthplace: Scotland
Mother's name: Florence Childs
Mother's Birthplace: Scotland
Attended School: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Childs 38
Florence Childs 27
Albert Childs 7
Edward Childs 5
Florence Childs 4
Veronica Sullivan 23



Edward Berrie Child
in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
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Name: Edward Berrie Child
[Edward Child]
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Date: 3 Jan 1914
Birth Place: New York City, New York
[New York Cit]
Death Date: 23 Dec 2000
Father: Stephan J Pitman
Mother: Florence M Berrie
SSN: 056032949
Death Certificate Number: FIX FOR "01" DOD 03/01
Notes: Nov 1936: Name listed as EDWARD BERRIE CHILD; 19 Apr 2001: Name listed as EDWARD CHILD

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Aug 2017 08:58

He applied for citizenship and there's a picture of him


Name: Stephen Pittman
Age: 38
Birth Date: 11 Dec 1879
Birth Place: Ireland
Application Date: 20 Sep 1918
Application Place: New York, New York, USA
Record Type: Application


He was a seaman at one time

Stephen Pittman
Age: 23
Birth Year: abt 1881
Birth Place: Dublin
Event Date: 14 Mar 1904
Port of Registry: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ship Name: Cretic (ex. Hanoverian)
Official Number: 115288
Reference Number: 387CRE/246

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Aug 2017 09:47

BERRIE, FLORENCE MAY WOOD
GRO Reference: 1891 M Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 723

VIEW 1891 England Census

Name: Edward Berrie
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Berrie
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Walsall Foreign
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Walsall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:hairdresser

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Walsall
Sub registration district: Walsall
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2255
Folio: 129
Page Number: 37
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Berrie 32
Sarah Berrie 26
Margeret Berrie 6
Mary Ann Berrie 3
Florence Berrie 5/12
James Collins 28
Frederick Brandhet 24
John Thornkenson 58

Mary ann berrie was also born Scotland so the marriage could be on Scotlands People


Florence Mai (May) Berrie

Birth: Jan 1891 - Staffordshire, England
Death: July 1976 (Jul 1976) - Forest Hills, Queens, New York, USA
F: Edward


Name: Florence Pittman
SSN: 074-20-2472
Last Residence:
11374 Flushing, Queens, New York, USA
BORN: 28 Nov 1890
Died: Jul 1976
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Aug 2017 22:42

Edward Berrie's wife Sarah - ie - Stephen Pittman's mother-in-law:


Sarah Ann Berrie
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Sarah Ann Berrie
Arrival Date: 5 Feb 1923
Birth Date: abt 1866
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: burntwood [Staffs.]
Age: 57
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Columbia

NOK in UK: Husband - Edward Berrie, 18 Monteith Street, Glasgow.
Going to her daughter Mrs Florence Child, 7910 3rd Ave., Brooklyn, NY.
Intending to stay permanently.
Fair complexion, grey eyes and hair.




And returning:

Sarah Ann Berrie
in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Sarah Ann Berrie
Birth Date: abt 1865
Age: 61
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 17 May 1926
Port of Arrival: Glasgow, Scotland
Ship Name: California

Address: 57 Dalmarnock Road, Glasgow.
Country of future intended permanent residence: foreign countries [ie - not in England/Scotland/Wales/Ireland]
Shipping line: Anchor Line
Official Number: 147871