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Andrew

Andrew Report 17 Sep 2017 16:34

I'm looking for a Pollux Longford, possibly in the Leicester area, born in 1949 or his brother Nicholas F, 1952. Apart from birth records I can find nothing. Any help would be welcomed.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Sep 2017 16:58

There's an address in Wigston, Leics for Nicholas to 2012. The property hasn't been sold since then. It could be that it's a rental & that he had moved and/or opted out of the commercial electoral roll.
http://www.192.com/all/search/

Have you tried searching all members trees, top right under search?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Sep 2017 17:32

What about looking for family
Could he have been the informant on any certs

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Sep 2017 17:37

Parents

Marriages Sep 1945
Longford Patrick F Lougher Cardiff 11a 850
Lougher Blanche A Longford Cardiff 11a 850

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Sep 2017 17:39

There is also a sister born 1948

Three children records show on FreeBMD

Edit sadly doesn't help as died as a baby

Victoria Longford
Death Age: 0
Birth Date: abt 1948
Registration Date: Jun 1948
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 3a
Page: 596

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Sep 2017 17:46

Births Mar 1915
Longford Patrick F Swift Blank 7a. 55

Births Jun 1917
Lougher Blanche A Gunstone Cardiff 11a 694

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Sep 2017 17:52

Blanche Audrey Longford
Death Age: 75
Birth Date: 9 Mar 1917
Registration Date: Feb 1993
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Register Number: D52C
District and Subdistrict: 6001D
Entry Number: 66

A copy of her will may name children

VIEW England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Name: Blanche Audrey Longford
Death Date: 8 Feb 1993
Death Place: Wigston Leics
Probate Date: 13 Jul 1993
Registry: Oxford

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Sep 2017 17:54

Died afte Blanche

Patrick Fitzgerald Longford
Death Age: 81
Birth Date: 14 Feb 1915
Registration Date: Jan 1997
Registration district: Melton and Rutland
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Register Number: 1C2
District and Subdistrict: 6041
Entry Number: 238

Contrary Mary

Contrary Mary Report 17 Sep 2017 18:02

There is a Pollux Longford birth in 1949 - but there is also a Pollux Longford death in 1949, age given as born 1914. When I look at the GRO site the only death for a Pollux Longford in 1949 has him as 2 years old?!!

Can't find an earlier birth for a Pollux Longford (maybe born outside the country?)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Sep 2017 18:29

The GRO. Death record shows in years when some are in fact months

So could well be the right death

LONGFORD, POLLUX 2 Order
GRO Reference: 1949 S Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 03A Page 500


The same record on freebmd has this
Deaths Sep 1949
Longford Pollux 35 Leicester 3a 500

But it's certainly 35 on typed gro sheet

Would seem to be some typos going on

Birth was reg sept qtr too so he could have been born and died in the same qtr

Births Sep 1949
Longford Pollux Lougher Leicester 3a 986

It's such an unusual name can't think theres more than one with the same name

Edit well spotted Mary . It was your find I was checking out :-)

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Sep 2017 21:07

Well done!
As you say, it's such an unusual name I'd wondered if he'd changed it to Paul or Peter. The bad death transcript might be why it didn't pop up on FMP.

Contrary Mary

Contrary Mary Report 17 Sep 2017 21:24


Well yes, I did think it was most probably a typo as it's such an unusual name......and there is definitely only 1 death for that name in 1949 +/- 2 years.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 21 Sep 2017 23:55

I wonder whether the Pollux Longford death certificate says '35 days' and that was unclear or was mistranscribed into the index as '35'.

Neither Ancestry nor FamilySearch shows any other record of a Pollux Longford anywhere, ever.

It might help if Andrew gave a general explanation of the reason for the search, e.g. related to one of the parents and looking for their descendants. (Based on a 1911 marriage in Cardiff I suspect that is the case.)

Basically the death certificate is the only thing that would say for sure.

Andrew

Andrew Report 24 Sep 2017 15:32

Thank you all for your help. I wonder if Pollux died at 35 days, his mother was possibly hoping for some immortality for him??? Pollux was the son of Zeus, the Greek God. He was the immortal one of Castor & Pollux. Also, it would explain how she could give him that name. He would have been made fun of at school, but if he was dead, it wouldn't matter. Thank you all once again.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 25 Sep 2017 05:57

re the new GRO search result posted earlier:

LONGFORD, POLLUX age 2
GRO Reference: 1949 S Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 03A Page 500

I believe that info is taken from the certificate rather than the index.

How can '2' and '35' be reconciled? Did the new system convert 35 days to 2 months, and then leave out the months?



Andrew, I received your private message, thank you. Is that info that you can put here so everyone can see it?

Basically I think you would like to find descendants of your gr-grfather's 7 siblings, and you chose Pollux Longford to ask about just because the name was a good one for searching.

If you want to try for descendants of the others generally, you could give their info here and people would help trace down from them.

patchem

patchem Report 25 Sep 2017 10:48

There is also a Lucia Longford (mmn Longher on free bmd) died same year so 3 of the 4 children died very young.

Maddie

Maddie Report 25 Sep 2017 14:29

Patrick Fitzgerald
Last name Longford
Birth year 1914
Birth date 14 Feb 1914
Baptism year 1915
Baptism date 22 Mar 1915
Baptism place Wigston Magna
Denomination Anglican
County Leicestershire
Country England
Father's first name(s) John Manning
Mother's first name(s) Sarah Shelton
Event type Parish Registers
Archive Record Office for Leicestershire, Leicester & Rutland
Archive reference DE6073/1
Page 27

LONGFORD, PATRICK FITZGERALD SWIFT Order
GRO Reference: 1915 M Quarter in BLABY Volume 07A Page 55

1911
Long St Wigston Magna, Wigston Magna, Leicestershire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
John Manning Longford Head Married Male Physician And Surgeon 41 1870 Belfast Ireland
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Sarah Shelton Longford Wife Married Female Ordering Management Of Her Home 31 1880 Dublin Ireland
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John Manning Longford Son - Male - 0 1911 Wigston Magna Near Leicester
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Mabel Hogg Domestic Servant Single Female Domestic Servant 20 1891 Overseal Near Ashby Dela Zouch Leicestershire