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I'm looking to know whether Helen Hardcastle had kids in her marriage in 1960 with

Charles Albert Cobbold
1902 - 1981

Helen has two daughters prior to this marriage and will like to track any kids she has had with charles.
The daughters are very eager to see a pic of their mother where they dont ever remember how she looks, All they can remember is her red hair.
Help will be very much appreciated.
Thank you.

Surely she would have been a bit old to have children post 1960 if she was born in 1914

Not unknown to have children from mid forties but unlikely

Was hardcastle her maiden name

Check on Freebmd for any possibles

Charles left a will which may name beneficiaries

Charles Albert Cobbold
Death Date: 6 May 1981
Death Place: Chadderton Oldham
Probate Date: 24 Jun 1981
Registry: Manchester

Not picking up Helen's death

First name(s) CHARLES ALBERT
Last name COBBOLD
Gender Male
Birth day 17
Birth month 1
Birth year 1902
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1981
District Oldham
County Lancashire
Volume 39
Page 0037
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England
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Death of Charles Albert's first wife


First name(s) NELLIE
Last name COBBOLD
Gender Female
Birth day 5
Birth month 1
Birth year 1906
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 2006
District Oldham
District number 0071A
Register number OA54B
Entry number 273
Date of registration mm/yy 0306
County Lancashire
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England
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You could try looking for descendants of Charles Albert's siblings

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
49 Napier Street West Werneth Oldham, Oldham, Lancashire, England

Albert Cobbold Head Married Male Foreman Tool Fitter 43 1868 Suffolk Rattlesden
Ada Cobbold Wife Married Female - 39 1872 Lancashire Oldham
Herbert Cobbold Son - Male - 10 1901 Lancashire Oldham
Charles Albert Cobbold Son - Male - 9 1902 Lancashire Oldham
Annie Cobbold Daughter - Female - 5 1906 Lancashire Oldham

On the 1939 register, brother Herbert doesn't seem to have any children but here's his sister Annie

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Cobbold Household (5 People)
49 Napier Street West , Oldham C.B., Lancashire, England

Annie Lees
DOB 14 May 1905
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 65
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 4

Albert Cobbold
DOB 15 Dec 1867
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Retired Foreman Textile Eng?
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 65
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1

Sarah J Cobbold
DOB 28 Jan 1872
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 65
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2

Edith Ogden
DOB 14 Jul 1895
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Ladies & Children Dress Maker
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 65
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 3

Marshall C Lees
DOB 01 Jul 1936
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Under School Age
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 65
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 5
Ref: RG101/4555E/006/18 Letter Code: NLBL
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Looks like Marshall Cobbold Lees ( not sure why his record on the 1939 register is open). He married in Wandsworth in 1964 so maybe his uncle Charles and Helen attended are in some of the photographs?



Marshall C
Last name Lees
Age guide 65+
Address 28, Cardinals Walk, Hampton, Middlesex, TW12 2TS
Town Hampton
District Hampton
County Middlesex
Country England
Year 2002-14
Electoral rolls 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
Occupancy (years) 29
Other occupants Carolyn Lees, Rosalind Lees
Record set Uk Electoral Registers 2002-2014
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Electoral Rolls
Collections from Great Britain, England
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Sorry Shirley, I edited that post as I realised it was the wrong lady but left the post for elimination purposes. Perhaps I should delete it as those named in it will still be living :-)

If this is her death, why would it be registered as Hardcastle? Surely it would be registered as Cobbold unless she had remarried.



First name(s) HELEN
Last name HARDCASTLE
Gender Female
Birth day 5
Birth month 8
Birth year 1914
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1984
District Manchester
Register number 584
County Lancashire
Volume 38
Page 1436
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England
© Findmypast

There no birth for a Helen Hardcastle born 1914 either

Probably best to delete it rootgatherer or amend it down so as to eliminate the full info

Michael
You need to give more info like helens maiden name had she married etc

Not picking her up on the 1939 register as hardcastle

Think you're right Shirley. I've deleted that ER

I have also deleted my reply

Think we need some feedback from Michael still