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John

John Report 5 Dec 2017 22:36

Trying to find the sons/daug oj leonard and Dorothy summers who lived in the Leeds area [could be meanwood]] they had 4 children, john Edward 1901 marr Eveline Campbell 1930, Dorothy b 1902 marr leonard green 1922, Emily b1908 she died unmarr age 77, joe b 1915 died 1940.

anyone that knows them or there children please let me know ;-)

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 6 Dec 2017 00:34

Have you tried Search All Members Trees to see if anyone has the names listed?

If this is John Edward & Eveline in 1939, they don't have any closed records (living people) or children listed with them. FreeBMD isn't showing any Summers/Campbell births 1930-1939 in the Leeds area

Summers Household (2 People)
8 Scott Hall Street , Leeds C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER

Evelyn Summers 07 Jun 1901 Female Tailoress Married 158 2
Jack Summers 07 Jul 1901 Male Jobbing Bricklayer Heavy Married 158 1

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 6 Dec 2017 00:46

Dorothy (Summers) and Leonard Green did have children. You can find all of the names (to 1939) by using FreeBMD, entering surname Green, mothers maiden name Summers year range 1920-1939. Specify Leeds as the Registration district.

As Alfred's name is shown on the 1939 Register, he has died.

Green Household (5 People)
3 Stonegate Green , Leeds C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Dorothy Green 29 May 1902 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 150 2
Leonard Green 12 Aug 1900 Male Foreman Finisher Shoe Trade Married 150 1
Alfred Green 16 Nov 1923 Male Bottom Painter Shoe Trade Single 150 3
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

The closed records were likely for their sons born in 1925 & 1927. Although there is a possibility they have died abroad or after 1992 when the Register ceased to be updated, they may still be living.

Potentially, there was also a daughter born in 1939 but after the register was compiled (29 Sep 1939) & another son in 1941

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Joe & Emily on the 1939 Register

Summers Household (2 People)
1 Melville Place , Leeds C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Joe Summers 02 Aug 1915 Male Upholsterer Bedding Single 178 2
Emily Summers 17 Jan 1908 Female Raincoat Machinist Single 178 1

As Joe died in 1940 didn't marry, you won't be able to trace any children he may have had outside of marriage unless he was named on a BC.

Joe Summers
Death Age: 24
Birth Date: abt 1916
Registration Date: Mar 1940
Registration district: Wharfedale
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9a
Page: 632

If you think it likely, there is one male born in Leeds (1948) where both surname entries are Summers. Although he might be the child of a Mr Summers who married a Miss Summers, it could also suggest that he was the child of a single mother.

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Evelyn (Campbell) Summers death
EVELYN
Last name SUMMERS
Gender Female
Birth day 7
Birth month 6
Death quarter 3
Death year 1981
District Leeds
County Yorkshire
Volume 5
Page 0734

John Edward Summers Death

First name(s) JOHN E
Last name SUMMERS
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1901
Age 45
Death quarter 4
Death year 1946
District Leeds
County Yorkshire
Volume 2C
Page 318

John's Estate went to Probate
SUMMERS John Edward of 8 Scott Hall Street Leeds died 18 Dec 1946 at General Infirmary Leeds Administration Wakefield 27 Jan 1947 to Evelyn Summers widow. £313 3s 3d

You could check to see if Evelyn's Estate went to Probate here
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills
Don't assume it occurred in the year she died - look for several successive years.

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Alfred Green's death
ALFRED
Last name GREEN
Gender Male
Birth day 16
Birth month 11
Birth year 1923
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 2002
District Dewsbury
District number 0881C
Register number C48C
Entry number 223
Date of registration mm/yy 0202

The informant could be a relative.
Alternatively, you could purchase a copy of his Probate for £10 from the Probate site (link given earlier). As his death was reg Feb 2002, the entry could be the one were the dod is given as 11 Feb 2002 with Probate granted Leeds 21 May 2002.
His Heir(s) should be listed

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 6 Dec 2017 01:37

As Leonard & Dorothy Green didn't give their children middle names, they are going to be tricky, & expensive in the way of purchasing certificates, to find

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 6 Dec 2017 01:53

John Edward Summers died in an accident.

Yorkshire Evening Post 19 December 1946

'A Pure Accident'
Death Fall on Roof Job

At the inquest in Leeds this afternoon on John Edward Summers (45) bricklayer of Scott Hall St, who died from a skull fracture and multiple injuries after a 24ft fall while working as a slater at premises in Pembroke St, the Coroner (Dr A Swanton) said the death occurred through a pure accident for which no one was responsible.

Harry Hartley of Berkeley Lane said he and Summers were repairing a roof. Summers went along a beam between two buildings and had examined a chimney when the beam went down and he fell, striking an outside roof before hitting the ground.

Hartley added they had used the beams as their ladders and tackle would not suffice.


John

John Report 6 Dec 2017 22:41

thankyou all
,yes I have been on other members trees I have sent them a message abought 7 I think I think it wont get anything else so I hope some other members help me
a gain
THANK YOU ALL

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 7 Dec 2017 00:11

There's always the chance that some one related will spot this thread in years to come. As long as you keep your GR account linked to a current email address, they'll be able to contact you through the personal message system.

Unless you receive a reply from the members you've contacted, probably the only current way to trace relatives is to buy Alfred's DC and/or Probate record. Then you'll have some more up to date names to work with.