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trying to trace my mums cousin Jennifer smith , she was born around 1945 ,lived in kilburn London. her parents were dot and george smith. she also had a younger brother George. my mums name is June Sharman.
Many thanks :-)

Start by looking for accurate birth year and birthplace on freebmd

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Then look for her in 'search all member trees' - if anyone has a listing for her, send a message via GR, by clicking on 'find out more'

how is the connection there to your mum

was one of her parents a sibling

We’d need to go back a generation to work out your mother’s aunts & uncles. Jennifer would be the daughter of one of them.

Who were your maternal grandparents? Names, yob and grandmas maiden name?

Don’t forget that, during the war, pregnant women were being moved out of London to give birth. Jennifer’s birth reg, if it was during the hostilities, might be somewhere unexpected.

Do you know Dot's maiden name?

Presuming that Dot was Dorothy (and that might not be the case) there are quite a lot ofGeorge Smith/Dorothy marriages from 1940 onwards. Even though she lived in Kilburn, it's not necessarily where Jennifer was born or her parents married.

And lots of Jennifer or Jennifer plus another initial born say 1944-1946

Kilburn could possibly be in either Hendon or Willsden reg district.

In sammy's tree on here

June Sharman 1939

Birth on freebmd shows MMN Smith - reg'n dist Camberwell JAS qtr, so would be expected to be living there in 1939

firstly thanks everyone for your replies.
i dont know dots maiden name , have tried to find it but to no avail.
so connection of jennifer to my mum: was through her dad george albert victor smith .1922
He was my mums uncle / my nans brother . my nans name was daisy ellen smith .1912
her parents were Ada carman and george albert victor smith.
they were from camberwell

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1910 (>99%)
Bevington Barry Camberwell 1d 1818
Carman Ada F Camberwell 1d 1818 <<<<<<<<<<<<
Dodd Emily M Camberwell 1d 1818
Josland Frances M Camberwell 1d 1818
Smith George A V Camberwell 1d 1818 <<<<<<<<<<

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:

SMITH, FLORENCE ADA CARMAN Order
GRO Reference: 1910 S Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 257

SMITH, DAISY ELLEN CARMAN Order
GRO Reference: 1912 S Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 1753 Order

Births Jun 1918 (>99%)
Smith Hetty A Carman Lambeth 1d 575

Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Smith Violet A Carman Lambeth 1d 1041

England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription (not showing on freebmd)
First name(s) GEORGE A V
Last name SMITH
Birth year 1923
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name Carman
District Lambeth
County London
Country England
Volume 1D
Page 527

Jennifer's Father with his parents and sister Violet (her year of birth on original reads 1919, not 1869 (that would be good going for a Laundry Hand!)

Smith Household (4 People)
50 Warham Street , Lambeth, London, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
George A V Smith 31 Dec 1922 Male Van Boy Single 187 4
George A V Smith 09 Nov 1884 Male Bricklayers Labourer Married 187 1
Ada E Smith 19 Dec 1886 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 187 2
Violet A Jackson (Smith) 06 Dec 1869 Female Laundry Hand Single 187 3


Living next door to Thomas H Carman b 1.3.1857 and Elizabeth Carman b 23.12.1858

Wow thank you

The informant could be family

George Albert V Smith
Death Age: 78
Birth Date: 30 Dec 1922
Registration Date: Feb 2001
Registration district: Westminster
Inferred County: Greater London
Register Number: B40C
District and Subdistrict: 2581B

Not seeing a marriage to a Dorothy who may be known as Dot

Do you have an old address for them in Kilburn? You could then check electoral registers to get Dot's full name.

Rose

How certain are you that the person you are looking for was registered at birth as Jennifer?

Bearing in mind his year of birth - possible marriages for George A V are:

Marriages Jun 1945 (>99%)
Phillips Kate M Smith Ilford 4a 1057
Smith George A V Phillips Ilford 4a 1057

Marriages Jun 1945 (>99%)
Parry Bessie M Smith Hawarden 11b 516
Smith George A V Parry Hawarden 11b 516


Marriages Jun 1946 (>99%)
Oakley Emma Smith Dudley 6c 22
Smith George A V Oakley Dudley 6c 22

hi everyone
thanks again , ive trolled through george and dot marriages , even tried seeing if
maidens names of the Dorothy marrying Georges would match up on birth certificates for Jennifer but never any luck . my mum is pretty certain that jennifer was her name. i wish i had address of when they lived in kilburn , she remembers it was shoot uphill.
i might try looking for dots death certificate , that was the correct death certificate that was found for george her dad.
jennifer did have younger brother also called george b 1952-56.

If you wish to pursue this with any certainty, you are probably going to have to fork out for certs..........unfortunately

George's death cert may prove useful, as the informant could be related and his or her details could be followed-up on.

Of course, it may be that George and 'Dot' weren't actually married (to each other) and any child registered in the mother's name only

Several members other than you have your mother in GR trees. Have you contacted them?