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John and Ellen Simmons

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Maisy Report 9 Feb 2020 15:15

Been looking for John and Ellen Simmons on 1911 census but can't seem to find them.
John Thomas Simmons was born about 1875 and Ellen Elizabeth Cousins in 1882. They married in 1909 in West Ham so I would think that they would be on 1911 census but I've spent ages trying to find them. I have them on the 1939 Electoral register but would like to know where they're hiding before then! Any help would be appreciated please. Thank you.


ArgyllGran Report 9 Feb 2020 15:34

For our reference:

John Thomas Simmons
in the Essex, England, Church of England Marriages, 1754-1935
Name: John Thomas Simmons
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 34
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1875
Marriage Date: 5 Dec 1909
Marriage Place: Plaistow, St. Andrew, Essex, England
Father: John Thomas Simmons
Spouse: Ellen Elizabeth Cousins

Where were they living in 1939, please?
I can't seem to see them .

There's this couple - is this them?

Ellen Simmons
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Ellen Simmons
[Ellen Straker]
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 13 Sep 1882
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 17
Residence Place: Thurrock, Essex, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number: 104
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: DCMI
Registration district: 192 1
Inferred Spouse: John T Simmons
Household Members:
John T Simmons - 24 Aug 1874
Ellen Simmons
Charles S Simmons - 25/3 /1920
Donald J Simmons - xx/xx/1930

???? Haven't checked this birth out yet: Date doesn't match above.

Births Sep 1921 (>99%)
Simmons Charles G Cousins Newport M. 11a 537


Maisy Report 9 Feb 2020 15:42

They're living in Tilbury, Essex with their 2 sons Charles and Donald.

Both sons were adopted so unable to find the births.


ArgyllGran Report 9 Feb 2020 15:46

OK, that must be the correct 1939 I posted above.


Maisy Report 9 Feb 2020 15:50

it is the correct one.


ArgyllGran Report 9 Feb 2020 15:56


Married 1 yr 6 months.

Ellen Simmons
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Ellen Simmons
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Plaistow, Essex
Civil Parish: Rainham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: Severn Cottage, Rainham
Registration district: Romford
Registration District Number: 191
Sub-registration district: Hornchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Piece: 9944
Household Members:
Name Age
J Simmons 37 - Stone, Kent - general labourer
Ellen Simmons 30

Dartford RG includes Stone:

Births Sep 1874 (>99%)
SIMMONS John Thomas Dartford 2a 400

West Ham includes Plaistow:

Births Dec 1882 (>99%)
Cousins Ellen Elizabeth W. Ham 4a 75


Maisy Report 9 Feb 2020 16:00

I haven't been on here for a long time but knew that someone would help. My cousin and I have spent hours looking for them today. I am so grateful. Thank you very much for your help.


Maddie Report 9 Feb 2020 16:13

Last name STRAKER
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1882
Age 69
Death quarter 1
Death year 1951
District Thurrock

Last name SIMMONS
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1948
Registration month -

MarriageFinder ™

ELLEN E SIMMONS married one of these people

George Straker
Spouse's last name Straker
District Thurrock


ArgyllGran Report 9 Feb 2020 16:23

Deaths Mar 1945 (>99%)
Simmons John T 70 Thurrock 4a 792


Maisy Report 9 Feb 2020 16:42

These are gg grandparents so were just unable to find on 1911. Ellen remarried after John died so hence Ellen Straker.

Thanks to you both.