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Banks Family Haslingden Lancs.

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Anne

Anne Report 18 May 2020 05:02

I am looking for any living relatives of my Uncle George Banks born 09/07/1915 at 33 Wesley Road Iron Bridge Shropshire. He married Menai Wynn in 1951 in Haslingden, His first wife was Elizabeth Jackson.
George died 23/11/1977 in Rossendale General Hospital and his son George Banks was the informant on his death certificate. I believe his son George married Barbara dont know last name and they had a son called Michael.

My Uncle george was the brother of my mother Annie Banks and the son of Joyce Martha Banks

Anne

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 18 May 2020 07:02

I see the son's birth on FreeBMD but there's no middle initial to help track him down.

Rose

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 May 2020 07:40

What about looking for the death of George’s wife Menai maybe the son was the informant too then

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 May 2020 07:43

Not much help I think as wasn’t much later

Menai Wynne Banks
Death Age: 65
Birth Date: 12 Apr 1915
Registration Date: Jul 1980
[Aug 1980]
[Sep 1980]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Hyndburn and Rossendale
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 40
Page: 1400

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 May 2020 08:03

There’s no marriage on freebmd for a George banks to a Barbara!

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 18 May 2020 08:07

There should be an address listed on the death certificate for the informant.

Rose

Maddie

Maddie Report 18 May 2020 11:37

menal 1939

1 Booth Street, Haslingden M.B., Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
John J Hindle 02 Jul 1889 Male Cotton Weaver Widowed 302 1
Elsie W Williams 02 Nov 1886 Female House Keeper (Unpaid) Married 302 2
Selina F Green (Williams) 02 Nov 1918 Female Cotton Weaver Single 302 3
John Gillett 21 Oct 1910 Male Unemployed General Labourer Married 302 4
Minni W (Wynne) Banks (Gillett) 12 Apr 1915 Female Unemployed Café
Waitress Married 302 5

1939
4 John Street, Church U.D., Lancashire, England

(3 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
George Banks 09 Jul 1915 Male Lap Carrier Cotton Wastes Spinster Married 97 1
Elizabeth Isherwood (Graham,Banks) 09 Dec 1913 Female Ring Spinner Cotton Married 97 2
The record for this person is officially closed.


Anne

Anne Report 19 May 2020 01:33

Yes Gillett was from her first marriage.Adrdess on the death cert is 8 Garswood Close Burnley. but that was back in 1977. I am not sure if his son was from his first wife or from Menai Wynn.

Anne

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 19 May 2020 01:56

Knowing he was in Burnley in 1977 might mean his son was also born in that district.

There is a Michael born in Burnley. Parents look be a George Banks, which is promising. Mother is Betty. Could "Barbara" have been Betty?

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 19 May 2020 01:58

George and Betty look to have had a daughter also. Does this ring a bell?

Rose

Anne

Anne Report 20 May 2020 00:56

Thks Rose not sure about daughter lots of family secrets so it makes it all hard to trace etc.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 20 May 2020 03:45

Well, there's a birth for a George Banks MMN Jackson in 1938. Notice the closed record in 1939.

Rose

Anne

Anne Report 21 May 2020 02:48

Yes I worked it out you are right it looks as though Elizabeth is the mother of the son George. I am now looking for a divorce record and remarriage of Elizabeth to a man last name Graham and any other children she may have had.

Anne

Anne

Anne Report 21 May 2020 02:51

I have uploaded photos to keepsakes in the shared media folder hoping someone may recognise them. I have a photo there who I don't know who it is but was in old family photos and one of George banks his son daught in law and grandson.

Not sure if I have uploaded to the right place for help.
Anne

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 May 2020 14:25

On the image of the 1939 Register, the alteration of Elizabeth's name to Graham was made in 1948, and the later alteration to Isherwood in 1972.

This is the Isherwood marriage:

Marriages Jun 1972 (>99%)
BANKS Elizabeth ISHERWOOD Burnley 10b 1545
GRAHAM Elizabeth ISHERWOOD Burnley 10b 1545
ISHERWOOD Thomas BANKS Burnley 10b 1545
ISHERWOOD Thomas GRAHAM Burnley 10b 1545

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 May 2020 14:33

I don't see any Graham marriage.

It's possible that she didn't marry Mr Graham, but just used his name.

Looking at Burnley, where she married Thomas Isherwood -

there were several Graham/Jackson births in Burnley in the 1940s, though of course I can't say if they were her children or not.
1944, 1946, 1947, 1949 and 1950 - you can find them on FreeBMD.

By the time she married Thomas Isherwood, she would have been 59.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 May 2020 14:55

???

Elizabeth ISHERWOOD Lizzie
in the UK and Ireland, Obituary Index, 2004-Current
Name: Elizabeth ISHERWOOD Lizzie
Maiden Name: Jackson
Gender: Female
Death Age: 95
Birth Date: abt 1914
Death Date: 1 Nov 2009
Parents: Robert Jackson; Martha Jackson


EDIT:

Yes, that's her death:
Obituary here:

https://tinyurl.com/ya59gofh
That also confirms that the Burnley children were hers.

{That link may give you an error message. If so, I find that refreshing the error message page then brings up the correct result.]


Death registration, from GRO website:

ISHERWOOD, ELIZABETH 1913
GRO Reference: DOR Q4/2009 in Lancashire (5911K) Reg 1K005 Entry Number 502320669

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 May 2020 16:48

You won't find a divorce record.
After 1937, less than 0.2% of divorce records survive.

Info here:

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/divorce/

Anne

Anne Report 22 May 2020 01:53

Well folk thanks for all your help. Last night on ancestry the daughter of Elizabeth got in touch with me so we are corresponding and I am awaiting a reply to my last email. The information you have all found for me is great and I have added it all to my search.

Thanks once again. Now I just need to try and find the identity of the man in the photo I uploaded. Maybe iI will or not but I live in hope.

Anne