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Hi, Trying to locate a cousin

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Avryll Report 20 Jul 2020 23:41

Hi everyone - does anyone on the site have a person called ANDREAS MEADS
in their family or family tree. I have never met Andreas (Andy) owing to a split family situation, but another cousin can remember him. Andreas would have been born Post WW2 although not sure if he was not born in Green or Cyprus. Parents are Dennis Edgar Charles Meads, mother Maria..............
I and another cousin are hoping to make contact either with Andreas (Andy) or his family to discover which of the registered deaths for a William Meads born 1892/3 in Ireland is our William.
My cousin knew Andreas as a child, but lost contact as they all grew up.
Thanks AVryll

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 21 Jul 2020 01:16

Did Andreas ever live in the UK?

Name: Dennis Edgar Charles Meads
Event Type: Baptism
Event Date: 18 Nov 1944
Event Place: Essex, England, United Kingdom
Birth Date: 22 Nov 1928
Father's Name: William Meads
Mother's Name: Florence May Agnes Meads

Digital Folder Number: 004298788
Image Number: 01117
Record Number: 4

Name: Dennis Edgar C Meads
Event Type: Death Registration
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1997
Registration District: Lewisham
County: London
Event Place: Lewisham, London, England
Birth Date (available after June quarter 1969): 22 Nov 1928
Volume: 2421D

Page: D38A.


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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 21 Jul 2020 01:17

Marriages Sep 1914
Meads William Smith Fulham 1a 733
SMITH Flora M A Meads Fulham 1a 733



ErikaH Report 21 Jul 2020 09:46

To find if this person is in anyone’s tree, look for the name in ‘search all member trees’

Two people seem to have Dennis in GR trees. Send contact messages


ErikaH Report 21 Jul 2020 11:24

Name: William Meads
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1892
Marriage Date: 6 Jul 1914
Marriage Place: St Simon, Hammersmith, Hammersmith and Fulham, England
Father: Charles Meads
Spouse: Flora May Agnes Smith

Ancestry links to:

Name: William Meads
Age: 54
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: abt 1892
Death Date: abt 1946
Burial Date: 31 Jan 1946
Burial Place: Ealing, Greater London, England
Cemetery: Havelock Norwood Cemetery
Grave Number: 56
Interment Number: 13032

In the same plot as Charles Edward Lee died 1939

Name: William Thomas Reginald Meads
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 3 Sep
Baptism Date: 27 Sep 1914
Baptism Place: St Paul, Brentford, Hounslow, England
Father: William Meads
Mother: Flora May Agnes Meads

Name: William T R Meads
Registration Date: Jul 1934
[Aug 1934]
[Sep 1934]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Romford
Inferred County: Essex
Spouse: Queenie A P Norris
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 1914

Get a copy of the death cert for informant's details

Name: William Meads
Death Age: 54
Birth Date: abt 1892
Registration Date: Jan 1946
[Feb 1946]
[Mar 1946]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Uxbridge
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 118

On second thoughts.

Name: Flora M A Meads
Gender: Female
Marital status: Widow*************************************
Birth Date: 23 Jun 1893
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 216 West Rd.
Residence Place: Southend-on-Sea, Essex, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 20
Schedule Number: 6
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: DAGW
Borough: Southend-on-Sea
Registration district: 195-3/ED.No 53A.
Household Members:
Flora M A Meads
Dennis E C Meads

A tree on Ancestry, which seems better than the norm for that site, has William's death as 1946, so perhaps Flora only said she was widowed , to save face, if the marriage had broken down

BUT.....can't see William in 1939 - so far


ErikaH Report 21 Jul 2020 11:33

Name: Flora M A Meads
Death Age: 73
Birth Date: abt 1894
Registration Date: Apr 1967
[May 1967]
[Jun 1967]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Southend on Sea
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 895


ErikaH Report 21 Jul 2020 11:41

Was William alive when his daughter married?

Marriages Sep 1943 (>99%)
Meads Rosalind A M Stoker Islington 1b 419
Stoker William A Meads Islington 1b 419


ErikaH Report 21 Jul 2020 11:44

You say your cousin 'knew' Andreas - where?

There is no record anywhere in the world on FMP, Ancestry or Family Search for the name in your time-scale

A copy of his father's death cert might be helpful - perhaps he was the informant?


ErikaH Report 21 Jul 2020 12:31

Name: Flora May Smith
Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 23 Jun 1893
Baptism Date: 15 Jul 1893
Baptism Place: Wotton under Edge, Gloucestershire, England
Father: Alfred Edward Smith
Mother: Rhoda Jane Smith

Name: Flora May Agnes Meads - and William
Electoral Date: 1932
Ward or Division/Constituency: Uxbridge
County or Borough: Hillingdon, England
14 West Avenue


ErikaH Report 21 Jul 2020 12:40

Name: William Meads
Death Date: 22 Jan 1946
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Probate Date: 23 May 1946
Probate Registry: London, England

Probate to Lily Lee, Widow................presumably the widow of Charles whose burial plot William shares

Name: Charles Edward Lee
Age: 44
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: abt 1895
Death Date: abt 1939
Burial Date: 26 Jan 1939
Burial Place: Ealing, Greater London, England
Cemetery: Havelock Norwood Cemetery
Grave Number: 56
Interment Number: 10657

His widow in 1939 - had hoped to find Meads in the house, but, no such luck

25 Derwent Road, Ealing, Southall M.B., Middlesex, England
Lily Mason (Lee) 29 Apr 1894 Female Domestic Unemployed Widowed 55 1
Dorothy Phyllis Rowe 29 Sep 1912 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 55 2
Albert George Rowe 10 Sep 1912 Male Electricity Meter Reader & Collector Married 55 3

Lily's re-marriage - after the William Meads death, so the time-scale fits

Marriages Jun 1949 (>99%)
Lee Lily Mason Ealing 5e 159
Mason William L Lee Ealing 5e 159

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Jul 2020 12:45


Dennis E Meads
Electoral Date: 1957
Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington South West
County or Borough: Islington, England

70 Westbourne road lower Holloway

With a Mary Meads


ErikaH Report 21 Jul 2020 17:54

Were Dennis and the child's mother married?

If not, the boy's birth may have been registered only in the mother's name


Mary Report 23 Jul 2020 09:51

1953 Denis and Mary 8 Gifford Street

1953 Andreas Panayiota at number 10 Gifford street
he was born in Larnaca Cyprus 1932


Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Jul 2020 10:23

But if Dennis was born 1922 then that Andreas can’t be his son born 1922


Mary Report 23 Jul 2020 14:03

I know ,I just thought it was a bit of a coincidence with the name and place of birth and being next door to the Meads.



Avryll Report 24 Jul 2020 22:46

Thanks so much everyone. My cousin Patricia Volante, daughter of William Meads 1914, anay d Queenie Morris, and like me granddaughter of Flora May Smith.....but not known to me until 2005 through G.R. I was fostered child, no knowledge of natural family until 2005. Patricia as a child used to see Andreas Meads (Andy) quite a bit with his father Dennis Meads, and Greek mother Mary. I also could find no record anywhere of Andreas, who was brought up the other side of the Estuary fromEssex, in Kent. I really want to find Andrea or Andy, as his father, Dennis might have given him family information about our shared grandfather William 1892/3 and more importantly when he died.
The thread about Widow Lily Lee is interesting, because Patricia looked at Wills for the William Meads I have thought of as our grandfather, who died in Hillingdon in 1946, not long before I was born, plus a couple of others, but thought the reference to Lily in the will precluded that William from being our William. My mother's marriage cert in 1943 states he is deceasedd, but she had not had any contact with him in twelve years apparently, and none with her mother. William and Flora were separated long before Dennis Meads was born in 1928, and another chap was living with Flora in her home, but birth cert gives William as father - such a mystery. Flora never gave away any secrets or information, never spoke about my poor mother Rosalind, or even if she knew that she had three grandchildren through her.

The information you have all given is so useful and will look at it more closely now.
Dennis was in the Army post WW2 served in Greece and other places nearby, and as my cousin Patricia says - most chaps brought back perfume type gifts for their families, but Dennis brought back a wife, Maria, but not sure where Andreas was born, or Andy as he was known. She has photos of him as a small child.
Odd that Flora chose Edgar and Charles as secondary names, both being strong Meads names, with Charles being the name of William's father.
What is compelling about William Meads who died in Hillingdon in 1946 is that the death was witnessed and notified by P. Meads from Reading. William had a younger brother Patrick Sidney born Reading 1906......and this is the only William/Patrick combination I can find, especially as the 1911 census shows them both living in the family home in Foxhill Road, Reading.
Will try to see if Andreas comes up on any trees - certainly not a peep on Google at all. My cousins in Essex have not seen Andreas since he was a smallish boy.

I have researched all the siblings to Willliam 1892, who mostly grew up in the Reading area, and the name Patrick was used for Patrick's son born in 1927 in Reading, Patrick Earnest in the William & Patrick connection seems very solid and strong. There are other Meads families in Reading/Berkshire, but none of them have the William/Patrick siblings, so I have to conclude that my grandfather William Meads died in 1946 in Hillingdon, with his younger brother as informant.
Sorry this is so long winded. If only families did not become so complicated and fostering agencies more forthcoming at the time of fostering as to family details.


ErikaH Report 25 Jul 2020 09:50

As stated earlier, Dennis is in trees on here - send contact messages

OR - get a copy of Dennis’s death cert, as suggested


ErikaH Report 25 Jul 2020 11:30

This lady's eldest child has Dennis in his GR tree


Ursula D Meads (Chant) 19 Dec 1917 Female School Teacher Single 185 5

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Jul 2020 11:52

Maybe when he married Mary she already had a son Andreas!

He may not have been born Meads but took on the name

Think you need some death certs for informant info that may be able to be followed up on