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Probyn Family - Liverpool

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 30 Dec 2020 21:46

Looks like John married again in then 50s to a Blat(t)eur and had a daughter.



ArgyllGran Report 30 Dec 2020 15:30

There's no sales history for the 2012 address.
Bernard's probably a tenant, but may still be there, if he has opted out of the public Electoral Roll.


Maddie Report 30 Dec 2020 15:26

john with siblings
6 Cottenham Street Kensington Liverpool, West Derby, Lancashire, England
John Joseph Probin Head Married Male 31 1880 Glass Bottle Blower Liverpool Lancashire
Jennie Probin Wife Married Female 28 1883 - Londonderry Ireland Resident
John Joseph Probin Son - Male 5 1906 - Liverpool
Margaret May Probin Daughter - Female 2 1909 - Liverpool
Thomas Probin Son - Male 0 1911 - Liverpool
Margaret Rooney Sister In Law Single Female 30 1881 Packer Londonderry Ireland Resident6 Cottenham Street Kensington Liverpool, West Derby, Lancashire, England

there are a number of treew on ancestry


SpainAge: 50-59


ErikaH Report 30 Dec 2020 15:24

No children born to Probin with second wife's name at marriage - unless she was divorced or widowed, of course, in which case MMN would be different.


ArgyllGran Report 30 Dec 2020 15:22

There are two marriages for a Bernard G Probin , in Liverpool - 1960 (Harris) and 1980 (Arnold). Not necesarily both the same person.

The 1960 wife died in 2007.
That couple had one son, born in 1961.

No children from the second marriage.


ErikaH Report 30 Dec 2020 15:19

Bernard is on the Liverpool ER to 2012. No death for him up to 2019............

His second wife Irene died in 2018

One probable son from his first marriage.......too recent to post on here

John appears to be in one GR tree


ErikaH Report 30 Dec 2020 15:14


55 Redbrook Street, Liverpool, Liverpool C.B., Lancashire, England

John J Probin 15 Nov 1905 Male Motor Driver Heavy Goods Married 166 1
Eileen V Probin 23 Mar 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 166 2
The record for this person is officially closed.

First name(s) John Joseph
Last name Probin
Gender Male
Birth day 15
Birth month 11
Birth year 1905
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1985
District Liverpool


ArgyllGran Report 30 Dec 2020 15:06

Ah! A Bernard PROBIN was born in Liverpool in 1937 - mmn McLeish.

This would be the parents' marriage - maybe Joseph's name was John Joseph (yes - see end of this post )

Marriages Dec 1929 (>99%)
McLeish Eileen Probin W. Derby 8b 908
Probin John J McLeish W.Derby 8b 908

John J Probin
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: John J Probin
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 13 Nov 1905
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 55 Red Rock Street
Residence Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Occupation: Motor Driver Heavy Goods
Line Number: 21
Schedule Number: 166
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: NISB
Borough: Liverpool
Registration district: 455/7
Inferred Spouse:
Eileen V Probin
Household Members Age
John J Probin 34
Eileen V Probin 32
[one closed record with them - that would be Bernard]

Eileen died 1940:

Deaths Mar 1940 (>99%)
Probin Eileen V 33 Liverpool N. 8b 1351


Yes, John J's middle name was Joseph:

Deaths 1985 (>99%)


ArgyllGran Report 30 Dec 2020 14:55

The only birth of a Bernard Probyn anywhere near 1940 was in West Ham in 1935 - but his father was William.

There's no marriage of a Joseph Probyn in Lancashire/Cheshire 1920-45.

So it doesn't look as if the Probyns belonged to Liverpool.

Can you remember anything more about them?
Perhaps Joseph's wife's name?

Were Joe and your father living in Liverpool at the time of the photo?


Anne Report 30 Dec 2020 14:23

I am now in my 80's and sorting through family photographs. Have found some 'snaps' of my late father Thomas Forrest and his best friend Joe (Joseph) Probyn taken on a camping holiday in the Isle of Man. This was probably in the late 1920's early 1930's. Joe and my father worked together at Mousells' Furniture Removers in Liverpool up until the 1950's/1960's. I do know that Joe had a son called Bernard who was probably the same age as me I was born in 1940.

If there are members of Joe's family who would like to have these photos, then I would be more than happy to post them.