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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Feb 2021 09:57

Why have you taken so long to tell us how much you think you know?

The father’s marriages are on freebmd - you can easily find them yourself

Winson

Winson Report 3 Feb 2021 05:00

Ok,thanks.No.I mean I did received a lots of replies from other descendants from governors of Penang & Malacca.Captain Edward Pratt is newly to me.

I did some research and found out him .

Born in 1875.Son Of Edward Haslope Pratt & Mary Gertrude Burton of Shrewsbury.Edward Haslope Pratt married 1stly,Annie ?.Served in Malayan and Straits Settlements Civil Service.Took up an appointment as district judge,magistrate in Penang.Retired in 1929.He was known as Captain Pratt in Malaya.He returned to Malaya after his retirement in 1930 and joined the lawyer firm in Kuala Lumpur.He went back to England on June 1931.He married Dorothy Eleanor Clow,daughter of Sir George James Clow in 1911. .They lived at The Haven, Torpoint, Cornwall.

His siblings :-

i) Rev.George Edward Haslope Pratt (1862-1925) married Marion Francis Hill.


ii) Edith Gertrude Pratt(?-1943).Unmarried.


iii) Lily Marian Pratt (1877-1931).Unmarried.

iv) Robert Edward Burton Pratt(1882-1934) married Poppie Gwendollen Gard.

v) Dorothy S Pratt.

I do hope all his siblings names would be appear on search engines.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Feb 2021 11:56

This post here on GR appears here on search engines - but only if someone searches specifically for "Captain Edward Pratt" or other combination of relevant words - which isn't very likely to happen.

The same would apply to a post on any other forum.

The helpers here on GR only saw your post because we look daily for any new threads on which to help.


Possibly try this forum??
https://www.genealogy.com/forum/regional/countries/topics/malaysia/pg-8/


You say, ",I have posted a lots enquiries on cousinconnect.com and have a lots replies from the descendants".
Do you mean you have received replies about descendants of Captain Edward??
If so, you must know if he had children or not, and what their names were/are.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Feb 2021 11:55

If anyone puts the name into any search engine, they will find your post on here.



Winson

Winson Report 2 Feb 2021 04:13

Ok,thanks.Does anyone know where can I post an enquiry about Captain Edward Pratt?.As prevouisly,I have posted a lots enquiries on cousinconnect.com and have a lots replies from the descendants but the company is brought over by adopted.com.So I cannot post an enquiry anymore.

I mean an enquiry post for which appeared on public in all search engine like Google,Yahoo & etc.

Please advice. :-)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Feb 2021 12:03

There's no sign of them on the England/Wales 1939 Register.

Winson

Winson Report 1 Feb 2021 05:25

Hello Erika,ArgyllGran,

Thanks for all these information.He retired to England for good in 1931.He has offered another judicial post in Malaya but he didn't return to Malaya anymore.

I have found these information on this link :- https://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/

Yes,his wife.Dorothy who died in Nottingham or Isle of Man in 1959.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Jan 2021 16:33

You say, "He returned to Malaya after his retirement in 1930 and joined the lawyer firm in Kuala Lumpur.He went back to England on June 1931."

I posted a travel record from July 1931, which gives his occupation as "Malaya CS".

Do you mean he retired to England for good in 1931, or only that he went to England then but later returned to Kuala Lumpur (or wherever)?

Are you sure of his birth date? Where did you find that, please? Where was he born?

If you have the correct date, he doesn't seem to have been born in England.
Only two English birth registrations fit in with that date:

PRATT, EDWARD mmn BURGESS
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 923

PRATT, EDWARD mmn DOW
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in WISBECH Volume 03B Page 600

The Greenwich one (presumably) was a wine merchant in Battersea in 1939, with wife Ada. Coincidentally, his DOB was 15 Feb 1875.

The other (born 14 Jan 1875) was an incapacitated widower in Norfolk in 1939. Definitely not Captain Edward, though - the Norfolk man married Charlotte Long in 1902 in Kings Lynn.


I suspect Dorothy and Eleanor didn't have children, but you never know what the 1939 Register might show if E&D were in the UK then.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Jan 2021 14:51

???

Name: Dorothy E Pratt
Death Age: 74
Birth Date: abt 1885
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep 1959
Registration District: Nottingham
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 3c
Page: 236

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Jan 2021 14:47

You can't assume there were any descendants - not every couple produces offspring.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Jan 2021 10:56

There's interesting mention of him - and his wife in a footnote - in this:

https://fadzilahyahayadotcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/yahaya_imw.pdf

Page 5 on the link - or page 3 of the actual document.

Winson

Winson Report 31 Jan 2021 05:16

Hello Erika,Maddie,ArgyllGran & Others,

Ok,thanks.I have found his birth date as 15 Feb 1875.I'm a historian of who based in Penang,Malaysia.My hobby is collecting pictures of governors in Penang & Malacca.Captain Edward Pratt who acted an appoinment as district judge & 1st magistrate in 1923 Penang.He might be acting for the Resident Councillor in Penang for a few weeks or days.So he wasn't Edward Lancelot Knight Pratt who were born in 1872.

Actually I'm looking for a picture of him.But I don't know where can I find one.As I don't have any information about his descendants.

He was known as Captain Pratt in Malaya.He returned to Malaya after his retirement in 1930 and joined the lawyer firm in Kuala Lumpur.He went back to England on June 1931.

Maddie

Maddie Report 30 Jan 2021 14:20

Edward Lancelot Knight
Last name Pratt
Publication year 1889
Country Scotland
Periodical Edinburgh Gazette
Issue date 17 Sep 1889
Issue number 10082
Record set Scotland, Edinburgh Gazette 1797-2018
Category Directories & social history
Subcategory Newspapers & Magazines
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland

appointed boy clerk to civil service commission

in case you don't have it

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Jan 2021 12:03

They seem to have spent their younger and potentially child-bearing years in Malaya, so IF they had any children they are likely to have been born abroad (ie - not in the UK), and so there will be no online records of any births for us to find.

Maddie

Maddie Report 30 Jan 2021 11:24

there are no births on gro website and none mentioned on the travel records

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jan 2021 10:03

Try to do some research yourself, Winson.

It doesn’t seem that you are in any way related, so what is your reason for asking for the info about this person and his family

Winson

Winson Report 30 Jan 2021 04:37

Hello Everyone,

Many thanks for these information. Yes,you did find Captain Edward Pratt birth date as 1875 and FMS - Federated Malay States / Malayan C S - Malayan Civil Service.So these is the correct information for him.A word - Legal Adviser in Johore.Yes,he did took up the appointment as Legal Adviser in Johore Bharu.Plus name if his wife,Dorothy Eleanor Clow which I don't know her name too.

Can you please try to help out the information about his children?.

Thanks again. ;-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jan 2021 15:17

OP

."I dont know when he was born,name of wife and children.I know he was retired from Singapore in 1930.I don't know names of his parents too."

Maddie

Maddie Report 29 Jan 2021 15:10

can't see anything on google, have to wait and see if has any more info, like children and where retirement date came from

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Jan 2021 14:29

Edward Lancelot K Pratt
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Edward Lancelot K Pratt
Registration Year: 1872
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Atcham
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 686

Can't see him after 1891.


It's possible that Winson found the details about Captain Edward Pratt in a book
If it was a list of officials, I would have thought his middle intials would have been given, if he had any.
But that's just speculation.