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Gardner Family

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Valerie Report 20 Apr 2021 18:28

Thank you all so much for all the help you have given me, Edna was called Nancy in the family, I do remember her, she had 2 children, both unmarried and still living
many thanks again Val


ErikaH Report 20 Apr 2021 16:38

Unmarried at death, so no legitimate offspring

Name: Clara Eva Gardner
Death Age: 69
Birth Date: 31 Jul 1925
Registration Date: Jun 1995
Registration District: Banbury
Inferred County: Oxfordshire
Register Number: 51B
District and Subdistrict: 6981
Entry Number: 108


Name: Dorothy K Payne
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 15 Sep 1908
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 30 Princess St
Residence Place: Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 21
Schedule Number: 83
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: QDBB
Borough: Coventry
Inferred Spouse:
Arthur Payne
Inferred Children:
Richard A Payne
Trevor S A Payne
Household Members Age
Arthur Payne 33
Dorothy K Payne 31
Richard A Payne 7
This record is officially closed.
Trevor S A Payne 4

Name: Dorothy Kate Payne
Death Age: 93
Birth Date: 15 Sep 1908
Registration Date: Jan 2002
Registration District: Mid Warwickshire
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Register Number: A41B
District and Subdistrict: 7751A
Entry Number: 276


Name: Caroline L Gardner
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec 1926
Registration District: Edmonton
Inferred County: Essex
Spouse: William A Davis

Name: Caroline Lily Davis
Death Age: 76
Birth Date: 15 Aug 1904
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun 1981
Registration District: Banbury
Inferred County: Oxfordshire
Volume: 20
Page: 2057


Name: Edna A O'Sullivan
Death Age: 38
Birth Date: abt 1912
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar 1950
Registration District: Banbury
Inferred County: Oxfordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 923

Ada doesn't appear to have married,

Unless Kelly is the woman's married surname, she can't be your mother's niece.
She could be a great-niece, but you'd have to do a lot more research to try to prove that


ArgyllGran Report 20 Apr 2021 12:09

Vivienne Kelly (or possibly different people with the same name) manages several "Kelly Web Site"s on MyHeritage:


ErikaH Report 20 Apr 2021 11:59

If she claims to be your mother's niece, you can easily verify by looking up the children of your mother's siblings on freebmd.

Their names are all posted above to make it even easier for you


ArgyllGran Report 20 Apr 2021 11:56

"she says she is a niece of my mother"

No, she doesn't, if that page posted by Rose is all you have to go on.

Vivienne manages a Kelly Web Site - which does seem to include your mother - but there's no way to know how your mother fits in with the Kelly family without joining MyHeritage in order to look at the tree. Your mother may be a far out distant twig on the tree.

You can get a 14 day free trial of MyHeritage.

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Maddie Report 20 Apr 2021 11:45

tree on ancestry

Vera Mary Gardner
Birth 17 DEC 1919 • Banbury, Oxfordshire
Death 1999 • Banbury, Oxfordshire, England


Charles Frederick Kirby
Birth 29 DEC 1911
Death 1994 • Banbury, Oxfordshire, England


Oliver John Gardner

Caroline Lily Gardner

William Herbert Gardner

Ernest Henry Gardner

Dorothy Kate Gardner

Edna A Gardner

Ada Emma Gardner

Vera Mary Gardner

Clara Eva Gardner



Thomas Henry Gardner
Birth ABT 1844 • Hornton, Oxfordshire, England
Death 3 MAY 1928 • Hornton, Oxfordshire, England

Emma Reed
Birth ABT 1846 • Paulerspury, Northamptonshire, England
Death 1904 • Hornton, Oxfordshire, England

77 S, Banbury, Banbury M.B., Oxfordshire, England
Kirby household
(2 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Charles F Kirby 29 Dec 1911 Male Labourer - Sheet Mill Aif Aluminum Works Married 340 1
Vera M Kirby 17 Dec 1918 Female Unpaid Domestic Duti Married 340 2

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 20 Apr 2021 09:37

Is this what you mean?

Not sure how you infer Vivienne is a niece.

Vera Mary Kirby (born Gardener)
MyHeritage Family TreesKelly Web Site, managed by Vivienne Kelly
Day Month 1919
Day Month 1999 - Place
Names of both parents
Oliver John Gardner and names of 7 more siblings
Name of husband
Name of child



Valerie Report 19 Apr 2021 17:35

Will try
Not to savvy with the computer


ArgyllGran Report 19 Apr 2021 16:45

You say you found her name on "The Heritage site".

Can you post a link, please?


ArgyllGran Report 19 Apr 2021 16:38

As we don't know your mother's name (apart from, presumably, Gardner) , place or year of birth, it's impossible for us to try to trace the relationship, if any.

Of course, don't give her exact DOB on here if she is still living.

Vivienne may be a distant cousin, whom nobody in the family would know about if they hadn't done any family tree research.


Valerie Report 19 Apr 2021 16:22

Sorry,..... all I know is her name, and she says she is a niece of my mother, This was on The Heritage site, as I don't belong to that site, I can't get any more info. No one in the family I have spoke to know her. I knew it was along shot but thanks so much. Val


ErikaH Report 18 Apr 2021 22:33

You need to give more info Valerie, as I’m sure you realise, as a regular poster on the message boards

Or use the ‘search all member trees’ facility


greyghost Report 18 Apr 2021 18:40

Vivienne unlikely to come by this post.

If you want help then we need more information.

When, where, what's the connection etc


nameslessone Report 18 Apr 2021 18:05

When and where please.


Valerie Report 18 Apr 2021 17:37

Looking for a Vivienne Kelly who is connected with the Gardner Family