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Find my mothers half sister Denise A Cronin

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Sam

Sam Report 11 Jun 2021 16:35

I’m trying to trace my mothers half sister. She was born in March 1957 in Pontypridd Wales Her name at birth was Denise A Cronin and her mother was Margarete A Cronin nee Kroger. They both returned to Germany shortly after Denise’s fathers death. His name was William French Cronin and he died in 1963.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Jun 2021 16:49

Welcome to the boards, Sam.

I'm afraid that we in the UK won't be able to find any records of Denise if she remained in Germany.
It would need access to German records, which we don't have to any great extent.

Neither Denise nor her mother seem to be on any trees on GR or Ancestry, either.

Do you know where they lived in Germany?

What is Denise's middle name?


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Jun 2021 16:52

For our reference - not that it's any help:

Margaret A Kroger
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Margaret A Kroger
Registration Date: Oct 1953[Nov 1953] [Dec 1953]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Pontypridd
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Spouse: William F Cronin
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 1009

Sam

Sam Report 15 Jun 2021 20:09

I am so grateful for your reply and useful information. This is new to me. I’m looking to find some living relatives for my mother. She and her brother didn’t meet my grandfather their father as he left them in India with my grandmother in approx 1942/43.
I have found out that his sister Christina Cronin (b 15.2.1913 d 2003) married Arthur James Alabaster in Willesden Middlesex in 1939. They had 2 children James C Alabaster b 1942 in Pontypridd and Christine A Alabaster b 1951 Pancras London. These would be my mothers cousins.
My mother has never even seen a picture of her father. She is 82 now and I would like her to find some relatives from her fathers side.
Many thanks again for all the info!

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 15 Jun 2021 21:11

This must be your grandfather's birth:

Births Mar 1915
Cronin William F Evans Pontypridd 11a 1569

You should add his name to your tree on here.

Someone called Ann has Christina in a tree. You should try contacting her.

Rose

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Jun 2021 21:59

Christine 1951 may have married in Oxfordshire in 1977, but if so, the latest I can see a record of them is in 2007 in London, per Electoral Roll.
However, their address at that time has not been sold since, per Zoopla, so they may perhaps still be there - though they may only have been renting.

Find the possible marriage on FreeBMD:
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

then, once you have the surname, look at Electoral Rolls, under "Search" at top right of this page.


James C 1942 seems to have married in Buckinghamshire in 1965.
If so, they were in Lincolnshire in 2002, per ER.
They may have had two children in the late 1960s in Oxfordshire.
The younger one seems to have been living in Milton Keynes in 2011.

Ann, who Rose mentioned as having Christina in her tree, will be worth getting in touch with, if possible.
She also has James C 1942 in her tree, and his wife and younger daughter .
She doesn't have the older daughter - though she does have someone of the same name, born 3 years later, who is not Christina's daughter - maybe she's picked the wrong person with that name.
She also has the husband of Christine 1951.



Arthur G Alabaster
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Arthur G [J on image ] Alabaster [Arthur James Alabaster]
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 28 Nov 1913
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 52,
Residence Place: Willesden, Middlesex, England
Occupation: Under-Taker Coffin Maker, Polisher, Bearer
Line Number: 6
Schedule Number: 192
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: BXJT
Borough: Willesden
Registration district: 129-2.
Inferred Spouse:
Christian Alabaster
Household Members Age
Arthur G Alabaster 26
Christian Alabaster 26



Arthur James Alabaster
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Arthur James Alabaster
Death Age: 87
Birth Date: 28 Nov 1913
Registration Date: May 2001
Registration District: Oxford
Inferred County: Oxfordshire
Register Number: D56D
District and Subdistrict: 7021D
Entry Number: 156

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Jun 2021 08:28

Christina Alabaster nee Cronin died in 2005

Maybe the informant was family

MS Christina Alabaster
Gender: Female
Age: 92
Birth Date: 15 Feb 1913
Last Residence: Watlington, Oxfordshire, England
Postal Code District: Ox49
Death Date: 30 Dec 2005


Gro ref

Name: Year of Birth:
ALABASTER, CHRISTINA 1913
GRO Reference: DOR Q1/2006 in MERTON (2441) Reg B51 Entry Number 292

Sam

Sam Report 17 Jun 2021 21:30

Wow. So much information here! I didn’t expect this level of assistance…thank you so much!
There’s a lot to understand. I’ve been in contact with Ann and she can’t help me as there’s nothing she knows about Christina or her children.
The information given here is very interesting for me and I will attempt to follow the advice. Thank you once again to all.

There will probably be more questions to follow. Just have to find the time to follow all this up!

Sam

Sam Report 16 Sep 2021 00:36

I have managed to find that James C Alabaster married Andrea J Crewe in 1965 and had 2 daughters Louise Ann in 1966 and Wendy Victoria in 1967. Does anyone know how I can trace them and how to eventually make contact?. Many thanks.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 16 Sep 2021 03:18

Anthea, Wendy and Louise are all on Facebook.

Rose

Sam

Sam Report 16 Sep 2021 09:39

Thank you so much. I think I’ve found them and will message. X

Sam

Sam Report 12 Oct 2021 22:19

I’d like to say how grateful I am for the advice and assistance I’ve received here. This level of help has meant that I have found my mother’s cousin who was able to show her a photo of her father. She saw her father’s face for the first time on her 83rd birthday…I can’t think of a better birthday present.
We are now planning a ‘long lost’ family lunch. So thank you so much!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Oct 2021 12:16

Thanks for letting us know, Sam/

What a lovely outcome!