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Pauline M Osborne 1951

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CJC61

CJC61 Report 16 Aug 2021 23:37

Trying to trace my cousin from my adopted mum side, her name is the subject, her mums name is Lilian her dads is Ernest, brother is Arthur b.1947 last in Harold Hill Essex.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Aug 2021 06:34

Have you looked for a marriage for her


Have you established lilians maiden name ?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Aug 2021 06:43

Looks like mmn was Wheeler and they were both registered Hackney

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Aug 2021 06:45

Parents married 1942 also Hackney

Marriages Dec 1942
Osborne Ernest W Wheeler Hackney 1b 584
Wheeler Lilian M Osborne Hackney 1b 584

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Aug 2021 06:47

Looks like Lilian was born 1919

Lilian M
Last name Wheeler
Birth quarter 1
Birth year 1919
Mother's maiden name Saunders
District Hackney
County London
Country England
Volume 1B
Page 460

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Aug 2021 07:02

Brother Arthur R W married Crew reg district 1974

Details on Freebmd

His wife was born 1944


It may be easier to follow up on him

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Aug 2021 08:12

Looks like there’s a brother Brian EG

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Sadly passed as a baby same birth year

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Aug 2021 08:23

Think this is Ernest on the 1939 register

48 Middleton Street, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets, Bethnal Green, London, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Mary A Mason (Osborne) 14 Jul 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 62 1
Ernest Osborne 03 Aug 1920 Male Motor Drivers Mate (Hardware Single 62 2
William Osborne 10 May 1922 Male Ladies Handbag Packer Single 62 3


His mother was Mary Ann M


Births Sep 1889
Warren Mary Ann M Bethnal Green 1c 251


William Thomas Osborne
Death Age: 59
Birth Date: 10 May 1922
Registration Date: Jul 1981
[Aug 1981]
[Sep 1981]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Havering
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 13
Page: 0278

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Aug 2021 08:26

Marriage

Marriages Dec 1943
Mason John Osborne Romford 4a 986
Osborne Mary A Mason Romford 4a 986

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Aug 2021 08:33

What have you done yourself to try to trace this person?

Have you looked in 'search all member trees'?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Aug 2021 08:36

Deaths Dec 1974
MASON MARY ANN M 15JY1889 ISLINGTON 13 1465



Not sure if any of this helps find Pauline

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Aug 2021 09:19

Who was in Harold Hill Essex?.

Do you mean that Pauline was there, or do you mean Arthur? It's not clear from your post.

When was she (or whoever) in Harold Hill?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Aug 2021 09:34

I don't see Arthur or his wife on the Electoral Rolls - at least not together, and/or not with their middle initials to distinguish them from other people of the same first and surnames.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Aug 2021 09:52

I see you've included Pauline in your GR tree - how did you manage to obtain her permission?

Ditto Arthur?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Aug 2021 12:05

No children registered in England/Wales from Arthur's marriage......

Could this be the mother's death? Get the cert for details of the informant

OSBORNE, LILIAN MAUD 1919
GRO Reference: DOR Q2/2006 in GREAT YARMOUTH (6361B) Reg B89B Entry Number 53

I can't see any other death for the name with a birth year of 1919

This, of course, only applies if the suggested birth is for the right person

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Aug 2021 12:13

Confirming 1939 found by Shirley (his 1939 record is 'closed' on Ancestry)

Name: Ernest W G Osborne
Electoral Date: 1947
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hackney
County or Borough: Hackney, England

Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
Osborne Ernest W G Warren Bethnal G. 1c 312

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Aug 2021 15:26

Name: Ernest William George Osborne
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 3 Aug 1920
Baptism Date: 22 Aug 1920
Baptism Place: St Jude, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets, England
Father: John Thomas Osborne
Mother: Mary Ann Osborne

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Aug 2021 11:48

PM from CJC61 confirms that it was Pauline who was in Harold Hill.

When was that?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Aug 2021 13:22

Two possible marriages in Havering district.

(Harold Hill is a suburban area in the London Borough of Havering, East London)

Look for them on freebmd and get cert(s) for father's details