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Descendants of Austin or Thomas Hogan

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Oct 2021 12:23

Hogan
Austin
1884

1914
British Army Service Records
Wigan, Lancashire, England

Discharged medically unfit 12.10.14

Wife Margaret Alice
Daughter Mary Alice

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Oct 2021 10:30

Looks like the birth does tie in

Thomas Hogan
Registration Date: 1892
Quarter of the Year: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Place: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Volume: 8c
Page: 161
Mmn Walsh


As previously posted by greyghost

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Oct 2021 10:14

1939 register

Thomas Hogan
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 30 Apr 1892
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 556 Ormskirk Rd
Residence Place: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Occupation: Exhaust Engine Man Colliery
Line Number: 6
Schedule Number: 52
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: NSRS
Borough: Wigan
Registration district: 458/3
Inferred Spouse:
Elizabeth A Hogan
Inferred Children:
Elizabeth Hogan
Agnes Hogan
Household Members Age
Thomas Hogan 47
Elizabeth A Hogan
45
Elizabeth Hogan (Wilson)
24
Agnes Hogan (Taylor)
20


Edit
Looks like the first child Ann died as a baby

Births Mar 1914
HOGAN Ann Gordon Wigan 8c 258

Deaths Dec 1915
Hogan Annie 1 Wigan 8c 125

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Oct 2021 10:13

Elizabeth Ann Hogan
Birth Date: 29 Jan 1894
Death Date: 10 Jul 1974
Cemetery: Gidlow Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Standish, Metropolitan Borough of Wigan, Greater Manchester, England
Has Bio?: N
Spouse:
Thomas Hogan
Children:
Agnes Taylor
Elizabeth Wilson
URL:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/216721257/elizabeth-ann-hogan


Thomas Hogan
Birth Date: 30 Apr 1892
Death Date: 15 Apr 1950
Cemetery: Gidlow Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Standish, Metropolitan Borough of Wigan, Greater Manchester, England
Has Bio?: N
Spouse:
Elizabeth Ann Hogan
Children:
Agnes Taylor
Elizabeth Wilson
URL:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/216721254/thomas-hogan


Dos his date of birth tie up ?


Inscription

Inscription
In loving memory of Thomas Hogan died 15th April 1950 aged 57.
Also Agnes Taylor daughter of the above died 17th May 1966 aged 46 years. R.I.P.
Also Elizabeth Ann Hogan died10th July 1974 aged 80 years
Also Betty wife of Walter Wilson died 6th May 1976 aged 60 years.
Gravesite Details

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Oct 2021 19:12

IF he married in the home area - possible marriage for Thomas

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1913
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Registers At Reference Add to Summary

HOGAN Thomas GORDON Elizabeth Ann 1913 Wigan, Register Office or Registrar Attended Wigan & Leigh ROW/129/71

3 children in Wigan RD to that marriage


You need to buy certificates to prove correct marriages

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Oct 2021 19:08

Just to show you the Lancsbmd site (more info than freebmd which just shows the Registration District.

Death of Mary Hogan using the lancs bmd site

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1908
Surname Forename(s) Age or Date of Birth Year Sub-District Registers At Reference Add to Summary
HOGAN Mary 46 1908 Pemberton Wigan & Leigh PEM/52/267

and his remarriage from the same site

Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Registers At Reference Add to Summary
HOGAN Michael WINSTANLEY Sarah 1909 Wigan, Register Office or Registrar Attended Wigan & Leigh ROW/127/8

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Oct 2021 18:59

Good sites for Lancs bmd's -free to use
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/birthsearch.php

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years:
1910
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference Add to Summary
HOGAN Mary Alice TAYLOR 1910 Pemberton Wigan & Leigh PEM/104/198

1914
HOGAN William TAYLOR 1914 Pemberton Wigan & Leigh PEM/110/368

1915
HOGAN Janie TAYLOR 1915 Pemberton Wigan & Leigh PEM/114/68

and also this site for baptisms, marriages, burials -
https://www.lan-opc.org.uk

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Oct 2021 18:57

Austin Hogan
in the UK and Ireland, Find a Grave Index, 1300s-Current
Name: Austin Hogan
Birth Date: 1881
Death Date: 13 Oct 1937
Cemetery: Lower Ince Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Ince in Makerfield, Metropolitan Borough of Wigan, Greater Manchester, England
Has Bio?: N
URL:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/216781755/austin-hogan

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Oct 2021 18:53

Austin's possible marriage - found on freebmd

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1910 (>99%)
Hogan Austin Wigan 8c 195
Taylor Margaret A Wigan 8c 195

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Birth of the daughter of that marriage (use the GRO site pre Q3 1911)
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
HOGAN, MARY ALICE TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 110

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and another 2 children

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

Births Mar 1914 (>99%)
HOGAN William Taylor Wigan 8c 256

Births Sep 1915 (>99%)
Hogan Janie Taylor Wigan 8c 224


greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Oct 2021 18:47

Is this Austin, now married - original says married 1 year, 1 child born

if it's him, he's lost a couple of years age wise!

1911 Census For England & Wales
3 Queens Terrace Orrell, Orrell, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Austin Hogan Head Married Male 27 1884 Stoker at collier of aboveground Lancashire Wigan
Margaret Alice Hogan Wife Married Female 26 1885 - Lancashire Wigan
Mary Hogan Daughter - Female 0 1911 - Lancashire Wigan
Male

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Oct 2021 18:45

1911 - again fro info - Father Michael Remarried?
Original shows Michael and Sarah married 1 year and had 1 child

Austin not at home

1911 Census For England & Wales
67 Tunstall Lane Pemberton, Pemberton, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Michael Hogan Head Married Male 52 1859 Store keeper at colliery Corofin Co Clare Ireland Resident
Sarah Hogan Wife Married Female 39 1872 - Lancashire Wigan
Elizabeth Ellen Hogan Daughter Single Female 21 1890 - Lancashire Wigan
Thomas Hogan Son Single Male 18 1893 Labourer at colliery above ground Lancashire Wigan
William Henry Hogan Son Single Male 16 1895 Laborer at colliery above ground Lancashire Wigan
Albert Hogan Son - Male 10 1901 School Lancashire Wigan
James Winstanley Stepson Single Male 17 1894 Black smith Lancashire Wigan
John Winstanley Stepson - Male 11 1900 School Lancashire Wigan
Margaret Anne Hogan Daughter - Female 0 1911 - Lancashire Wigan

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Oct 2021 18:41

? The family in 1901 - for our info

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
135, Little Lane, Pemberton, Wigan, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Michael Hogan Head Married Male 45 1856 Labourer at colliery above ground Ireland
Mary Hogan Wife Married Female 41 1860 - Ireland
Austin Hogan Son Single Male 20 1881 Labourer at colliery above ground Wigan, Lancashire, England
Michael Hogan Son Single Male 15 1886 Labourer at colliery above ground Wigan, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth E Hogan Daughter - Female 11 1890 - Wigan, Lancashire, England
Edward Hogan Son - Male 13 1888 Labourer at colliery above ground Wigan, Lancashire, England
Thomas Hogan Son - Male 8 1893 - Pemberton, Lancashire, England
William Hogan Son - Male 6 1895 - Pemberton, Lancashire, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Oct 2021 18:39

Is this your family -
From freebmd - https://www.freebmd.org.uk

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1881 (>99%)
HOGAN Austin Wigan 8c 42

Births Sep 1885 (>99%) ...................Not seeing a death if there was another
Hogan Thomas Wigan 8c 49.....................................Thomas born 1892

Births Jun 1892 (>99%)
Hogan Thomas Wigan 8c 161

Births Dec 1894 (>99%)
Hogan William Henry Wigan 8c 138

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and then from the GRO site showing Mother's maiden name pre 1911
https://www.gro.gov.uk

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
HOGAN, AUSTIN WELSH
GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 42

HOGAN, THOMAS WELSH
GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 49

HOGAN, THOMAS WALSH
GRO Reference: 1892 J Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 161

HOGAN, WILLIAM HENRY WALSH
GRO Reference: 1894 D Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 138

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 30 Oct 2021 16:36

As you are posting on the Find Living Relatives board one assumes they survived the war.

Use the free site www.freebmd.org.uk to find their births, then their marriages and then look for births of any children and so on.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Oct 2021 16:34

Look for their names in ‘search all member trees’. If they appear, send contact message to the tree owner(s)

EDIT. I just looked for Austin - he’s in two trees, so that’s a start for you

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Oct 2021 16:25

Have you tried looking for info anywhere?
Freebmd is the best place to start looking for marriages and subsequent births

Did both of them survive WW1?

In which years were they born?

linda

linda Report 30 Oct 2021 16:21

They were my great uncles .Thomas won a military medal in 1917 and Austin was in Royal Navy in WW1.I am the granddaughter of their brother William Henry Hogan .any information i would be grateful for .They were originally from Pemberton Wigan;Thankyou Linda Hogan