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South Wales Borderers in India

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Tricia Report 24 Sep 2013 22:05

Am trying to trace origins of Richard Raymond who went out to India in the 1870s/1880s with the 2nd Batt S Wales Borderers. Born c1853. He was a L/Sgt in 1883 when he married. Family story is that he was Irish but I can’t find any trace. Marriage cert says his father was James Raymond. SWB have no record of him but he couldn’t have put incorrect information on marriage and children’s birth certificates in a small cantonment. Any help gratefully received.


Potty Report 25 Sep 2013 13:20

Does his marriage cert give his father's occupation?


BatMansDaughter Report 25 Sep 2013 23:22

Is this his marriage?

Name: Richard Raymond
Birth Date: 1853
Age: 31
Spouse's Name: Mary Anne Crowe
Spouse's Birth Date: 1863
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 21
Event Date: 15 Apr 1884
Event Place: Bolorino, Madras, India
Father's Name: James Henry Raymond
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas William Crowe
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Marital Status: Single
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M75025-2
System Origin: India-EASy
GS Film number: 521872
Reference ID:


BatMansDaughter Report 25 Sep 2013 23:24

Is this his death?

Name: Richard A. Raymond
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 02 Jan 1919
Burial Place: Fort William
Death Date: 31 Dec 1918
Death Place: Bengal, India
Age: 65
Birth Date: 1853
Marital Status: Unknown
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B75049-4
System Origin: India-EASy
GS Film number: 527557
Reference ID:


Tricia Report 1 Oct 2013 13:15

Yes, thank you, you're right about the marriage but not the death (that was in Bangalore). I wish I could have replied earlier and saved you the trouble you so kindly took, but GR locked me out for several days.

I know about Richard Raymond's life after his marriage - he is my great-grandfather. What I cannot find is his birth, and don't understand why the SWB do not have any record of him. I can find a likely birth in India, but that then begs the question of how he came to be in the SWB. I will go the BL and check the L/MIL for Madras to see if it gives his origins.

Thanks so much for your efforts.


was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 1 Oct 2013 15:46

Heve you searched the Army records on Find My Past for him?

If he is not there, there will be records at the National Archives for his service, such as Muster Rolls, where his birthplace might well be given.


Tricia Report 1 Oct 2013 17:25

Thanks for this. The only record on Find My Past is his marriage. I'll try the National Archives as well as L/MIL.

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 1 Oct 2013 20:38

You won't find anything online at the National Archives. You would need to go there or get someone to go for you.


Tricia Report 2 Oct 2013 16:35

Thanks. I shall have to trek out to Kew at some point, as I have other things to look up.