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Army Pensioner Ernest Lloyd

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Susan Report 18 Feb 2014 17:17

On my mother Lucy's birth certificate(1918) , my grandfather Ernest Lloyd has under "occupation" Motor Bus Fitter army pensioner. I never knew him as he died in 1927. I have been trying to find out more about him and his army service. On my parents marriage certificate Ernest's profession is stated as soldier. On his marriage to my grandmother in 1917 his occupation is a dairyman. Unfortunately there are a great many Ernest Lloyd's.


Porkie_Pie Report 18 Feb 2014 18:40

To narrow it down does it give a regiment or service number

If he was a Motor Bus Fitter then the army would have probably made use of him in the Royal army ordnance corps

Do you have his year of and location of birth



Kucinta Report 18 Feb 2014 19:08

is this the marriage and birth of child?

Unfortunately I can't identify the death to ascertain his age:

Marriages Jun 1917
Law Elsie E Lloyd Croydon 2a 511
Lloyd Ernest Law Croydon 2a 511

Births Mar 1918 Lloyd Lucy K Law Croydon 2a 378


Kucinta Report 18 Feb 2014 19:10

Any chance this was him in 1911?

Address: 59 Milton Road Croydon County: Surrey

LLOYD, Walter Head M 68 1843 French Polisher Brighton Sussex
LLOYD, Charlotte Wife F 60 1851 Farnham Surrey
LLOYD, Ernest Son Single M 22 1889 Milk Carrier Croydon Surrey<<<<<<<<
LLOYD, Percy Son Single M 17 1894 Shoe Maker Croydon Surrey
LLOYD, Lucy Daughter Single F 24 1887 Cook Croydon Surrey

and maybe this his death?

Deaths Mar 1927 Lloyd Ernest 37 Reigate 2a 357


Kucinta Report 18 Feb 2014 19:19


Surrey Recruitment Registers 1908-1933

First Name(s):E
Last Name:Lloyd
Unit:Royal Garrison Artillery<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Series:Volunteers, 12th October 1915 - 18th January 1916<<<<<<<<
Regiment:Royal Garrison Artillery
Reference:2496 / 5
Page number:56
Age:26 Years 5 Months<<<<<<<<<<
Height:5ft 8.25in.
Weight (pounds):129
Chest size (inches):35
Chest Expansion (inches):1
Eye colour:
Hair colour:
Distinctive marks:

Births Sep 1889 Lloyd Ernest Croydon 2a 211


Kucinta Report 18 Feb 2014 19:27


UK, Silver War Badge Records, 1914-1920

Name: Ernest Lloyd
Discharge Unit: Royal Garrison Artillery 20 'X' T.M. By.<<<<<<<<<<<<
Regiment Number: 62256
Rank: Gunner<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Badge Number: 77065
Unit: Royal Garrison Artillery (Dover)<<<<<<<<<<<<
Piece: 2984
List Number: RGA 0001-0400
Record Group: WO
Record Class: 329

Enlisted 30-10-15
Discharged 13-08-16
Cause of discharge: Sickness.
Had served overseas.

"The Silver War Badge was issued in the United Kingdom to service personnel who had been honourably discharged due to wounds or sickness during World War I. The badge, sometimes known as the Discharge Badge, Wound Badge or Services Rendered Badge, was first issued in September 1916, along with an official certificate of entitlement.

The sterling silver lapel badge was intended to be worn in civilian clothes. It had been the practice of some women to present white feathers to apparently able-bodied young men who were not wearing the King's uniform. The badge was to be worn on the right breast while in civilian dress, it was forbidden to wear on a military uniform

The badge bears the royal cipher of GRI (for Georgius Rex Imperator; George, King and Emperor) and around the rim "For King and Empire; Services Rendered". Each badge was uniquely numbered on the reverse. The War Office made it known that they would not replace Silver War Badges if they went missing, however if one was handed into a police station then it would be returned to the War Office. If the original recipient could be traced at his or her discharge address then the badge would be returned.."


GlitterBaby Report 18 Feb 2014 19:28

Just for info

Name: Ernest Lloyd
Age: 27 Birth Year: abt 1890
Marriage Date: 22 Apr 1917
Parish: Croydon, St John Parish as it Appears: Croydon
Spouse: Elsie Elizabeth Law Spouse Age: 21
Father: Walter Lloyd
Spouse Father: Frederick Thomas Law
Reference Number: 2888/1/50


Kucinta Report 18 Feb 2014 19:37

British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920

Name: Ernest Lloyd
Regiment or Corps: 20 TM Bty RGA
Regimental Number: 62256

Looks like he was entitled to the Victory and British medals


Kucinta Report 18 Feb 2014 20:05

Just to add re the marriage record that GlitterBaby posted for info, on the marriage register image it gives Ernest's occupation as 'dairyman', which tallies with what Susan said in her opening post about his occupation on her grandparents' marriage certificate.


Cynthia Report 19 Feb 2014 11:34

Hello Susan and welcome to the Community Boards.

Note: I will let Susan know about the replies to her query. :-)


Kucinta Report 19 Feb 2014 12:56

Thanks Cynthia :-)


Susan Report 19 Feb 2014 23:17

I am amazed at all these replies and so quickly, in response to my post. I really appreciate everybody's help.

To Roy - no it did not give a regiment or service number, however this has now kindly been identified for me by Kucinta, who is correct in locating Ernest in 1911 at 59 Milton Road.

Thank you to everybody for your help


Susan Report 19 Feb 2014 23:21

Dear Kucinta
the marriage and birth were also correct. I have located his entry in the death register and sent for the cert.