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21st Lancers Regiment Medal certificate

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Anita Report 11 Nov 2014 19:43


I am thrilled that i have managed to find through the national archives what i believe is the medal certificate for my great uncle Henry Charles Williams who served in the army around 1920 in India. Can anybody please suggest who i could ask to decipher it as a lot of the information is difficult to understand. Many thanks.

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 11 Nov 2014 23:17

Not sure what you mean by medal certificate. What does it say? What is the reference from the National Archives site for the record?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 12 Nov 2014 08:13

Medal card of Williams, Henry C
Lancers L/4491 Private
Lancers L/4491 Corporal
Lancers 312059 Corporal

(could be above?)

Chris :)

All British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 (Ancestry)

Herry C Williams
21 Lrs, 1 Lrs L/4491,312059


All UK, WWI Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920 (Ancestry)

Henry C Williams
Private Household Cavalry and Cavalry of the Line L/4491 British War Medal and Victory Medal

Henry C Williams
Private Household Cavalry and Cavalry of the Line L/4491 British War Medal


Cynthia Report 12 Nov 2014 15:01

Hello Anita and welcome to the Community boards

(I'll let Anita know how to find her replies) :-)


Anita Report 12 Nov 2014 21:58

Thank you for your replies.
Chris, you are correct with regard to the details you gave me.
The medal card details IND.GS.AFGN.NWFF.1919 which i know is the unit that served in the afghan/Anglo conflict.
Do you know if it is possible that more than one medal ie different conflicts are on the same medal card? My Great Uncle joined the army when he was 15 years old so i feel he must have been involved in other conflicts prior to 1919. There are other entries but i am not sure if they are related to the Afghan one or seperate.
Many Thanks

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 13 Nov 2014 07:48

You need the Service Record to help, but sadly, not all survived.

(perhaps ask on above, if nobody here can decipher Medal Card)

Chris :)


Potty Report 13 Nov 2014 13:18

When & where was he born? If he joined the Army before WW1 there might be a record on FMP.


Potty Report 13 Nov 2014 13:28

Found some more details for him on FMP under the Royal Tank Corps:

Joined at Dover on 31/12/1912, age 15yr25 days; musician; b Barnet, Middelesex; had a brother, Bertie, who was in the KRR (Kings Royal Rifles?); was awarded the British War Medal and died as the result of a riding accident in Meerut on 2/03/1922.

I will PM you the image


Anita Report 13 Nov 2014 17:45

Thank you so much everyone!
Chris, now i can see on the medal card it has hand written BW Med and V Med so i know this is the British War Medal and the Victory Medal you mentioned above. I am going to have a look at the service record to see what else i can find.
Potty, thank you for the recorded death details, Henry was born in 1897 in Barnet.
Again i will try and find out more about his duties whilst in the Royal Tank Corps from 1912 from the service records.
I will let you know how i get on!



Potty Report 14 Nov 2014 11:14

As he was still in the Army in 1922, his service record might still be with the MOD. The link below will give you info on how to get it.


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 14 Nov 2014 15:05

Potty - did you get distracted? Is this the link you meant to add?


Potty Report 15 Nov 2014 11:53

Thanks, Det! Senior moment! Yes, that is the link.


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 15 Nov 2014 12:45

No - not a senior moment, you were multi-tasking :-D :-D


Potty Report 15 Nov 2014 13:02



Anita Report 15 Nov 2014 16:06

Thank you everyone,
I have looked on the veterans site and the Commonwealth War Graves site and found no records so i think i will pay the money and apply to the Ministry of Defence for the service record.