Military Chat

W. Elves didn't makes sense as it was not in alphabetical order. It is W E Ives:

IVES, WALTER ERIC

Rank: Corporal
Service No: 6287436
Date of Death: 31/03/1944
Age: 19
Regiment/Service: Duke of Wellington's (West Riding Regiment) 1st Bn.
Grave Reference: VIII. G. 2.
Cemetery: BEACH HEAD WAR CEMETERY, ANZIO
Additional Information: Son of Bert and Mabel Lily Ives, of Bapchild, Kent.

Parent's marriage:
name(s) BERTIE IVES
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1920
Spouse: MABEL L ARMOND
District MILTON
County Kent Country England
Volume 2A Page 1907

Walter's Mum, Mabel, was previously married:
name(s) MABEL L WILDASH
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1916
Spouse: CHARLES J ARMOND
District MILTON County Kent
Volume 2A Page 2127

Making this correct birth for Walter:
name(s) WALTER E IVES
Birth year 1923
Birth quarter 4
Mother's last name WILDASH
District MILTON County Kent
Volume 2A Page 1628

Not a strong match, but, just in case, pm sent to: Kathleen Smyth (Member No. 800703)

WRIGHT, JOHN ERNEST

Rank: Corporal
Service No: 1067908
Date of Death 29/12/1943
Age: 34
Regiment/Service Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Grave Reference: Mil. Sec. Grave 131.
Cemetery:JOHANNESBURG (WEST PARK) CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of John and Florence Wright; husband of Edna May Wright, of Timperley, Altrincham, Cheshire, England.

A tree on Ancestry has
Birth 1 MAR 1909 in Birkenhead, Cheshire
Death 29 DEC 1943 in Johannesburg

Marriage to Edna May Benn, Cockermouth
Birth 1 NOV 1905 in COCKERMOUTH Cumbria England
Death 11 APR 1994 in Altrincham, Cheshire, England

Parents
John Wright
Birth ABT 1888 in Barrow, Cheshire, England
Florence Leyland
Birth 1887 in Wigan, Lancs, England

No sources - not signed in for over a year, sub probably lapsed
..............
There are quite a few other possibilities, but with nothing in common.

Louise Ford (Member No. 181273)
Kevin Patten (Member No. 10009)
Not expecting them to be read, but we could be surprised!

WALKER, LESLIE
Rank: Stoker
Service No: LT/KX148707
Date of Death: 31/03/1943
Age: 29
Regiment/Service: Royal Naval Patrol Service H.M. Trawler Caulonia.
Grave Reference: Sec. B. Grave 176.
Cemetery: ELLESMERE PORT (OVERPOOL) CEMETERY
Additional Information: Son of Thomas and Edith Walker, of Ellesmere Port; husband of Emily Rebecca Walker, of Ellesmere Port

Marriage:
name(s) LESLIE WALKER
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1934
Spouse: EMILY R GREEN
District WIRRAL County Cheshire
Volume 8A Page 820

Parent's marriage:
name(s) Thomas Walker
Age 21y
Marriage date 26 Oct 1907
Marriage place Ellesmere Port
Spouse's Edith Carman
Spouse's age 21y
City or town Ellesmere Port
County Cheshire
Reference item 4 p 123
Record set Cheshire Diocese of Chester parish marriages 1538-1910

Leslie's birth:
name(s) LESLIE WALKER
Birth year 1913
Birth quarter 4
Mother's last name CARMAN
District WIRRAL County Cheshire
Volume 8A Page 752

No tree matches with birth place Wirral or Cheshire

DAVIS, STANLEY
Rank: Sergeant
Service No: 1006122
Date of Death: 31/03/1942
Age: 21
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve 76 Sqdn.
Panel Reference: Panel 81.
Memorial: RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Son of Edgar and Harriet Ann Davis, of Ellesmere Port, Cheshire.

Struggling with this one- I see a marriage for an Edgar Davis to Harriet A Brown, but no Stanley Davis birth with mmn Brown. Anyone see anything else that fits?

CONNER, HUGH
Rank: Corporal
Service No: 196399
Date of Death: 24/10/1944
Age: 31
Regiment/Service: East Lancashire Regiment 1st Bn.
Grave Reference: 3. C. 9.
Cemetery: UDEN WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information: Son of John and Mary Conner; husband of Edna Ruth Conner, of Little Sutton, Cheshire.

Perhaps a brother of above John Conner? Just looking into it now

marriage:
name(s) HUGH CONNER
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1940
Spouse: EDNA R FAIRBROTHER
District WEST CHESHIRE County Cheshire
Volume 8A Page 1644

I can't work out whether this man is related to the John Conner that's also listed. However, no tree matches for Hugh.

Have decided to just go for a month sub with Ancestry- and perhaps renew fully coming up to winter.

You're right- all of the deaths are so sad, and the ones on the CWGC with no family listed seem especially so- I feel like claiming them!

Let me know if you decide to look at Ancestry members too, and we'll join forces.

Good morning ladies.

No one has replied to the messages I've sent, but only a few have been opened. It's probably down to all those abandoned accounts we know about!
If we've only managed to reach out to one interested person, it's been worth the effort. If the relatives those memories aren't recorded soon, they'll be lost for ever.
It's been very humbling reading the young ages of some of the deceased especially the airmen in their early 20s.

Gritty, phone ancestry and ask for a loyalty discount. I got 25% off earlier this week
:-D

It is a good idea to try and identify close relatives on Ancestry, but we need to co-ordinate efforts. I had thought of re-typing the list on the OP, to give full names as we know them. The original was a C&P from the BL site. The tabs didn't transfer too well!

CONNER, JOHN
Rank: Driver
Service No: T/14820083
Date of Death: 15/04/1945
Age: 37
Regiment/Service: Royal Army Service Corps 509 Coy.
Grave Reference: III, E, 10.
Cemetery: ARGENTA GAP WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information: Son of John and Mary Conner; husband of Olive Conner, of Ellesmere Port. Cheshire.

Marriage:
name(s) JOHN CONNER
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1939
Spouse: OLIVE PERCIVAL
District WEST CHESHIRE County Cheshire
Volume 8A Page 1694

Possible for 1911:
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
31 Bridgewater St Runcorn, Runcorn, Cheshire, England
John Connor Head Married Male 34 1877 Co Wexford Ireland Resident Dock Porter
Mary Connor Wife Married Female 33 1878 Runcorn Chester
Mary Connor Daughter - Female 9 1902 Runcorn Chester
Norah Connor Daughter - Female 6 1905 Runcorn Chester
Kathleen Connor Daughter - Female 3 1908 Runcorn Chester -
John Connor Son - Male 2 1909 Runcorn Chester

hmmm, really not sure about this census. I can see a matching Runcorn birth, but it seems quite a way from Ellesmere Port (and it's ConnOr, not Conner). Might need someone else to look?

Not had any replies yet but hopeful that some will take a look at this thread. Three have been opened

Will be back later to take another look.

DYKES, JAMES WALKER
Rank: Civilian
Date of Death: 20/09/1940
Age:31
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: LAMBETH, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH
Additional Information: Son of James and Mary Dykes, of 24 Chichester Street, Chester; husband of Ethel E. Dykes, of 117 Feltham Hill Road, Ashford, Middlesex. Died at Bowater's Shelter, Upper Ground.

Birth:
name(s) JAMES WALKER DYKES
Birth year 1908
Birth quarter 4
District WOOLWICH County London
Volume 1D Page 1110

1 possible tree match- pm sent:
Julius Charrett-Dykes (Member No. 10123920)

Morning :-D

Disappointed that quite a few messages still unopened, and no replies from yesterday's batch :(

My Ancestry sub ran out last night, I'm unsure whether to renew it- but I was thinking that maybe we should message on ancestry too? Or perhaps just the one's we can see are more closely linked? (if I decide to renew I might take a look).

EDIT: Just had reply- confirming the person is their relative and thanking us for link :-)

SIMMONS, GOULDA IRENE

Glitterbaby, I think this is likely to be Goulda's birth:

First name(s) GOULDA L I
Last name BUTCHERS
Birth year 1919
Birth quarter 2
Mother's last name BISHOP
District SHEPPEY County Kent
Volume 2A Page 1379

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=43446964&ref=acom

pm sent: Jamie Simmons (Member No. 13881435)

GREEN, CHARLES FRANK

Rank: Lance Corporal
Service No:6346966
Date of Death: 30/04/1943
Age:25
Regiment/Service:Queen's Own Royal West Kent Regiment1st Bn.
Grave Reference: II. N. 2.
Cemetery:MASSICAULT WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of Ernest Alfred and Edith Green, of Milton Regis, Kent.

No matches

WHATMORE, GEORGE JOSEPH

Rank: Private
Service No 14721419
Date of Death:10/05/1945
Age: 25
Regiment/Service Border Regiment9th Bn.
Grave Reference:3. C. 12.
Cemetery:
RANGOON WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of John and Mary Ann Whatmore, of Ellesmere Port, Cheshire.

Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
Whatmore George J Fox Wirral 8a 593

Kelly Dryden (Member No. 6603824) but no pob

MILLER, LESLIE RICHARD

Rank:Civilian
Date of Death 04/10/1940
Age:22
Regiment/Service Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority:SWALE, RURAL DISTRICT
Additional Information:
Son of Mrs. M. M. Miller, of 20 Goodnestone Road, Sittingbourne. Died at Codes Reach, Iwade.

Births Dec 1917 (>99%)
Miller Leslie R Fosbreay Milton 2a 1408

Linda Barker (Member No. 8357213) replied, no connection.

W A Robinson

Ellesmere Port connection
ROBINSON, WILLIAM ALBERT

Rank:
Pilot Officer
Trade:
Air Gnr.
Service No:142019
Date of Death: 03/04/1943
Age: 26
Regiment/Service Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve 158 Sqdn.
Grave Reference:Coll. grave 2. D. 20-24.
Cemetery:RHEINBERG WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of John and Eliza Robinson, of Ellesmere Port, Cheshire; husband of Violet Robinson, of Little Sutton, Cheshire.

Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
Robinson William A Turner Wirral 8a 713

??
Marriages Sep 1939 (>99%)
Dodd Violet Robinson W.Cheshire 8a 1760
Robinson William A Dodd W.Cheshire 8a 1760

No obvious matches

QUARRY, THOMAS

Rank:Corporal
Service No:3305280
Date of Death:27/07/1942
Age:36
Regiment/Service:Highland Light Infantry (City of Glasgow Regiment)
Grave Reference:Sec. J.3. Cons. Grave 197.
Cemetery:LAMBETH CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of Robert and Mary Quarry; husband of Lucy Annie Quarry, of Kennington.

Births Mar 1906 (>99%)
Quarry Thomas Southwark 1d 51

Can't see a marriage
ER with Lucy Annie
Name: Thomas Quarry
Year: 1939
County or Borough: Lambeth
Ward or Division/Constituency: Lambeth North
Street address: 8 Holyoak Road

No matches

PRESTON, FREDERICK THOMAS

Rank: Leading Aircraftman
Service No:1127327
Date of Death: 23/05/1945
Age:35
Regiment/Service:Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Grave Reference:XIII. F. 1.
Cemetery:BARI WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of Frederick George and Florence Jane Preston, of Ellesmere Port, Cheshire

Births Sep 1909 (>99%)
PRESTON Frederick Thomas Wirral 8a 406

1911 census says Ellesmere Port

No matches

G I Simmons

Not sure about this -opinions??

SIMMONS, GOULDA IRENE

Rank: Civilian
Date of Death: 27/06/1944
Age:25
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority:
SOUTHWARK, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH
Additional Information:
of 36 Manor Place. Daughter of Mrs. R. Butchers, of Prospect Cottage, Five Oak Green, Tonbridge, Kent; wife of Flt. Sgt. Albert Simmons, R.A.F. Died at Walworth Road.

Not spotting a birth - She married Albert in 1941 in Tonbridge reg

Thanks Gritty for looking at Brice