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Henry G. Coyne
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Henry G. Coyne
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relationship to Head: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Leicester St Margaret
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street address: 19 Chancery St
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Actor
Registration district: Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors:
Piece: 3156
Folio: 6
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
William Clarke 55
Milicent Clarke 50
Mary Elizth. Clarke 30
Geo. William Clarke 26
Sam. Henry Clarke 20
Fred. William Stenning 19
Henry G. Coyne 39 - actor

I'm not questioning that the Bolton birth is the correct one.
Maybe the 1901 enumerator assumed she was born in America because Harry was. Or maybe she wanted to sound more exotic!



Looking into Henry Andrew Gardiner Coyne, the librettist 1839-1900.
probably Bertha's husband, although a good bit older than her:

Leonora Leigh : ballad and chorus, sung by Gardiner Coyne
Author: Henry Tucker
Publisher: Boston : Oliver Ditson & Co., ©1858.
Edition/Format: Downloadable musical score : Document : EnglishView all editions and formats
https://tinyurl.com/y9dgaqhx



Henry Andrew Gardiner
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Henry Andrew Gardiner
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: Preston
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Household schedule number: 89
Piece: 4205
Folio: 75
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Isabella Yates 33
Elizabeth Yates 20
George Wareing 71
Henry Andrew Gardiner 37 - actor
Phoebe Gardner 34 - born USA

Presumably he couldn't marry Bertha before Gustavus's birth because he was still married to Phoebe.


His death, after (or maybe before) which Bertha moved in with George Leslie:

Henry Andrews Gardiner

in the Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958
Name: Henry Andrews Gardiner
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1900
Death Age: 61
Registration district: Dublin North
Volume: 2
Page: 406
FHL Film Number: 101601

Terence's marriage, that ended in divorce by the 1939 register?

Marriages Mar 1937
Coyne Terence G G Deighton Scarbro' 9d 757
Deighton Joan F Coyne Scarbro' 9d 757

A possible son and daughter of the marriage on FreeBMD. Won't post here as they may still be living.

Bertha may have said she was born in America, but I still feel the birth I posted previously for her is the right one...

Name: Bertha Eugena Amanda Fletcher
Registration Year: 1857
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Bolton
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 263

Apologies if the 1939 register for widow Ella and son has already been posted. Note the address, 9 Springfield Place, was bertha's address on the probate record Argyllgran posted:

9 Springfield Place , Scarborough M.B., Yorkshire (North Riding), England

Ella Coyne ? Dec 1878 Female Unpaid Housewife Widowed 126 1
Terence G Coyne ? Oct 1914 Male Hairdresser Divorced 126 2

I'm not sure Bertha was ever actually married to George Leslie - maybe for religious reasons? She was RC, he was C of E.

I don't see a marriage record, anyway.

1901 census -
Bertha's birthplace is given as America - and also her son Harry is said to be born in America.

Son Harry is with his father Henry G in 1891 - but no sign of Gustavus:


Harry Coyne
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Harry Coyne
Gender: Male
Age: 4
Relationship: Lodger
Birth Year: 1887
Birth Place: USA
Civil Parish: Whitehaven
Residence Place: Whitehaven, Cumberland, England
Sub registration district: Whitehaven
ED, Institution or Vessel: 6
Neighbors:
Piece: 4313
Folio: 105
Household Members:
Name Age
William Mc Gowan 68
Elizabeth Mc Gowan 48
James Mc Gowan 23
Frederick Mc Gowan 12
Joseph Mc Gowan 10
Henry G Coyne 47 - Artist (Sculp [tor?] ), Ireland, married
Harry Coyne 4
William Mc Gowan 18


EDIT:
I see now that RG has already posted travel and marriage records for Harry.

Another marriage:

Bertha Eugenie Amanda Gardiner
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958
Name: Bertha Eugenie Amanda Gardiner
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec, 1901
Registration district: Dublin South, Ireland
Volume: 2
Page Number: 613
FHL Film Number: 101259
Records on Page:
Name
Howard George Allcock <<<<<<<<<
Margaret Josephine Myers
John Hugh Moses Montgomery
Bertha Eugenie Amanda Gardiner <<<<<<<<<<
Elizabeth Radford
Bertha E A Fletcher <<<<<<<<<<<
Wilfred Joseph H Rickatson
Alfred Meeson


Bertha E A Allcock
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Bertha E A Allcock
Death Age: 70
Birth Date: abt 1861
Registration Date: Dec 1931
Registration district: Scarborough
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 460


Probate:

Allcock, Bertha Eugenie Amanda of 9 Springfield Place, Scarborough (wife of George Howard Allcock) died 19 December 1931. Probate 12 January to Ella Coyne, widow. Effects £55.

Have to go offline for tonight thank you all so much

Rootgatherer I didn't have that information. Thank you very much.

People on here are so kind <3

Doesn't help with Gustavus but his mother had remarried and was in Ireland in 1901.

Census Years1901DublinMountjoyBayview AvenueResidents of a house
Residents of a house 33 in Bayview Avenue (Mountjoy, Dublin)
Show all information
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion
Leslie George 30 Male Head of Family Church of England
MacAnney Fanny 20 Female Servant R C
Coyne Harry 14 Male Step Son R C
Leslie Bertha 36 Female Wife R Catholic

Hi Kucinta yes thank you the link did work. You are a star!

Plenty to keep me busy there

Did this link work for the review of the parents in Tenby in 1884?

https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3709333/3709337/19

Harry Gardener
Last name Coyne
Role Passenger
Others Arrival port relation (UNCLE): Thomas Fletcher
Sex Male
Age 21y
Birth year 1885
Nationality England, Irish
Residence Dublin
Year 1906
Departure port Queenstown
Arrival place New York
Ship name Teutonic
Country United States
NARA publication number M237 and T715
Record set New York Passenger Lists & Arrivals
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger Lists
Collections from Americas, United States
Learn about these records

You may already have this


Optional keywords -
First name(s) Harry Gardiner
Last name Coyne
Sex Male
Race White
Marital status Single
Age 30
Birth year 1885
Birth place N Y City
Father's first name(s) Harry G
Father's last name -
Mother's first name(s) Bertha
Mother's last name Fletcher
Event Marriage
Year 1915
Event date 16 Sep 1915
Location Manhattan
Place Manhattan, New York, United States
County New York
State New York
Country United States
Spouse's first name(s) Louise Marie
Spouse's last name Woisks
Spouse's race White
Spouse's marital status Single
Spouse's age 25
Spouse's birth year 1890
Spouse's birth place N Y City
Spouse's father's first name(s) John
Spouse's father's last name -
Spouse's mother's first name(s) Anna
Spouse's mother's last name Novik
FamilySearch film number 001614226
Record set United States Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Americas, United States
FamilySearch

Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl

Kucinta you are a marvel thank you. I can't get the Henry info on a google search but thanks for the info.

They certainly kept chainging their names around, no wonder they are hard to find!

Hi Christine, we may have crossed in the post. See my link to his parents' performances in Tenby in my post before your last one.

Just took a quick look at newspapers on FMP, lots of refs esp to MR G-C, and references to him being Irish.

Edit: The Era 29 February 1896 shows Gustavus as a 'young comedian'

OOh maybe not Kucinta as I have found Ella Dale on the 1901 census and she was a professional musician and her father was a professional vocalist - there may well be a connection as to how they met.
Thank you I will follow that through :-)

The parents were in Wales in 1884. The Tenby Observer Weekly List of Visitors and Directory 27th November 1884 has MR And Mrs Gardiner Coyne appearing at the public Hall. Miss Bertha Fletcher ( Mrs G Coyne) is the heroine. Mr Gardiner Coyne plays her foster brother with the 'true hearted Hiberrian ring which has justly stamped him as one of the famous Irish actors of the day'.

There is quite a lengthy account of their various performances:

https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3709333/3709337/19

Probably a co-incidence, but googling Henry Andrew Coyne-Gardiner comes up with a
librettist:

Henry Andrew Gardiner Coyne (October 1839 — 7 April 1900)

Thank you Kucinta no it hasn't