Military Chat

Not sure if this has been posted yet.


Marriages Sep 1881

FLETCHER Bertha Eugenia A Liverpool 8b 371
GARDINER Henry Andrew C Liverpool 8b 371

so marriage took place after the birth of Gustavus?

EDIT:

Birth of mother Bertha?

Births Sep 1857 Fletcher Bertha Eugena Amanda Bolton 8c 263

thank you ArgylGran that's an interesting point

On the 1911 census for Ella, her name is on the 4th line, and the first three lines are blank.
She has also been listed as Daughter-in-law at first, which has been scored out and "Head" substituted

That seems to indicate that she was living with her in-laws, and was expecting their names to be on the first three lines, above hers.

And then - they moved elsewhere before the census date and left her living alone??

thank you Malyon I will try to look into that

thinking that the family could have been abroad if father was in the forces

Thank you +++DetEcTive+++


There is no budget I'm afraid, it is a voluntary project on my part.
Please people don't waste your valuable time.

I will just list the information I can find in the Remembrance and if some have more detail than others so be it.

Many thanks everyone for your help it is much appreciated. I may dare to come back with another of my brick walls..

sons marriage

Marriages Mar 1937 (>99%)
Coyne Terence G G Deighton Scarbro' 9d 757 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Dec 1953 (>99%)
COYNE Terence G G GRAHAM Scarboro' 1b 1401

mother's death
Deaths Mar 1965 (>99%)
COYNE ELLA 87 Scarboro' 1b 989

Marriage ref from
http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/marriagesearch.php

Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
DALE Ella COYNE Gustavus P Warrington, Civil Marriage or Registrar Attended Warrington R/44/198

Unless you can persuade someone to give you a budget, I can’t see a way to get the MC & his occupation for free.

A poor transcription aside, the reasons for being absent from a census could be
- abroad
- at sea
- in the military posted abroad
- the child of a service family resident abroad.

Thank you Greyghost I didn;t have that level of detail on the birth.

My starting point was the name on the memorial which is Gustavus Coyne so I have followed it through from there.

I am not a super experienced genealogist just an enthusiastic amateur who perhaps volunteered for a task which was biting off a lot ore than I could chew!

Please don't spend more valuable time on this (I have spent days)
I just posted in the vain hope that someone might have an idea of where else to look.

I feel suitably chastised for my lack of detailed posting and should I post another request I will post all the info I have! :-D

Thanks everyone for your input.

GRO birth mmn Fletcher. Shows Coyne as a given name not as part of surname. Which is correct?

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
GARDINER, GUSTARUS PATRICK COYNE mmn FLETCHER Order
GRO Reference: 1881 J Quarter in DEWSBURY Volume 09B Page 698 Order

Hi Greyghost

I did notice he enlisted in Wales and haven't had any luck finding him there so far.

i don't have certificates for any of the veterans I am researching. As I said theree are 31 of them and it would prove too expensive for me to purchase them.

I am trying to put together a book of Remembrance to honour those , on the church memorial, who made the ultimate sacrifice

Did you notice he joined up in Wales? Could he be there?

Was he going by Gustavus or Patrick?

Do you have a copy of the marriage certificate to see what his occupation was - it may have been one that took him away from home. It would also name his Father if he knew him.

thank Malyon for the marriage info

Thank you for that Greyghost - can you think of any reason he wouldn't show on any census since his birth?

I have to admit I am stumped and as I am researching 31 veterans my brain is a bit numb now I am down to the last 3/4 difficult to find ones

Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%)
COYNE Gustavus Patrick Warrington 8c 343 view
DALE Ella Warrington 8c 343

maylon thank you

Photo of grave here

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/11556164

safc thank you

View UK, WWI Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920

Name: Gustavus Patrick Coyne
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Corporal
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Royal Artillery (Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery)
Regimental Number: W/2755
Sub Unit: Royal Field Artillery
Previous Units: R.F.A. (W/2755 Cpl)
Other Records: Search for 'Gustavus Patrick Coyne' in other WWI collections

Entitled to British Medal and Victory Medal