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The Black Watch, Edinburgh Castle 1850's/60

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Sylvia Report 1 Feb 2019 20:26

I am wondering if anyone can advise me. Family folk lore says that an ancestor was in the Black Watch and I have found Helen Marriott who was born in Edinburgh in about 1861. She has a brother John also said to have been born in Edinburgh so am assuming some truth in what is said. However Mother in Law couldn't remember any names.
I have located their Mother. Mary Vincent who lived in Glastonbury Somerset but cannot trace their father. He does not appear on Helen's Marriage certificate or Johns service records. Nor have i been able to find a previous marriage for Mary Vincent who at the time of her daughter's marriage was married to James Vincent ,a Tailor.
Is it possible to view lists of serving soldiers?


ArgyllGran Report 1 Feb 2019 20:51

I don't see the birth of a Helen / Ellen / similar Marriott (or alternative spelling) (or Vincent) anywhere in Scotland 1850-70, per ScotlandsPeople.

The nearest I can find is this one - mistranscription isn't uncommon:
But I'm NOT particularly suggesting this is your Helen:

681/ 45
Crichton (Midlothian)


ArgyllGran Report 1 Feb 2019 20:52

Info re Black Watch archives here:


ArgyllGran Report 1 Feb 2019 21:07

Where have you "found" Helen and John?
I don't see them on any census.

Have you found Mary and James on a census?

Do you mean that Mary's maiden surname was Marriott?
Or was she a Vincent who married a Vincent?

When did Helen marry -- and who did she marry? Where?


ArgyllGran Report 1 Feb 2019 21:17

This James Vincent is a tailor in Glastonbury, and married to a Mary - but it's 1841 - 20 years before Helen's supposed birth, so I assume this is not the right couple ?

James Vincent
in the 1841 England Census
Name: James Vincent
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1805
Gender: Male
Where born: Somerset, England
Civil Parish: St Benedict and St John Glastonbury
Hundred: Glaston Twelve Hides
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Wells
Sub-registration district: Glastonbury
Piece: 943
Book: 4
Folio: 37
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
James Vincent 36
Mary Vincent 43
Charlott Vincent 11


ArgyllGran Report 1 Feb 2019 21:28

Another thread about this family, on Find Ancestors:

Please stick to one thread, Sylvia, to save helpers duplicating research, as has already happened.


Best to stick to the Find Ancestors thread, as there are now more replies there than on this one.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 2 Feb 2019 11:18

Can't have been black watch as that wasn't formed till 1881 !!!