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help needed please if anyone has time?

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Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 12 Nov 2008 10:02

I am trying to find out about two of my family on our local war memorial.

Topsham Devon.(england)
S Trout- 1st world war
C Trout-1st world war

From the CWGC I found out they were

Sidney trout died age 19 in 1915
and Charles Ernest trout died age 27 in 1914. They were both sons of John Voysey Trout and Elizabeth Trout of Tree's court Fore Street ,Topsham,Devon. England.

However I don't have a John Voysey Trout in my tree yet!

I have 75 other Trouts from Topsham but I can'tse where he fits in-or whose child he was. I found hid birth reg.

Name: John Voysey Trout
Year of Registration: 1844
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: St Thomas
County: Devon
Volume: 10
Page: 236 (click to see others on page)


But I cann't find hid marriage so I don't know who 'Elizabeth' was.

Can anyone help please-

1901 for a start would be great as it would have John,Elizabeth and hopefully Charles and Sidney on it?

Any help greatly appreciated. I feel I owe it to them to have them at least appear in my research-after all they paid the ultimate price for us! Next year I will be able to stand and think of them then feeling I know who they were.

Funnily enough the address'tree's court' is literally about 50 yards from the war memorial where ther names are.

Many Thanks

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 12 Nov 2008 10:08

1901 England Census
about Charles E Trout
Name: Charles E Trout
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Pinhoe, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Topsham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
Town: Topsham
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: St Thomas
Sub registration district: Topsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
Charles E Trout 13
Elizabeth Trout 50
Florence E Trout 10
George Trout 19
John Trout 57
Leah L Trout 16
Sydney A Trout 5


address looks like High passage Lane

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 12 Nov 2008 10:13

Thanks very much for 1901-does it say where John (The Father) was born? or his occuaption-I thought I had found them in 1881 with children called John and William and Mary Ann-but none of these are on this one! Can anyone see 1891 to see if it helps? I will post 1881-Maybe someone could cjheck the actuall image for me and see if it has the same occupation?

Higher Passage lane makes sense (I know where it is its still there but called something diffrent now)

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 12 Nov 2008 10:16

looks like the same family

1891 England Census
about George Trout
Name: George Trout
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Topsham, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Topsham
Ecclesiastical parish: Topsham
Town: Topsham
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: St Thomas
Sub registration district: Topsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Trout 3
Elizabeth Trout 39
Florence Trout 1/12
George Trout 10
John Trout 41
John Trout 13
Leah Trout 6


John born Clyst St George Devon
occupation farm labourer

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 12 Nov 2008 10:17

I think this would possibly be 1881-but I need 1891 to compare!-don't want to go off in the wrong direction.

John Trout
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Clyst. St. George, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Topsham
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address: Newcourt Cotts
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: Subscribe now to see this information.
Occupation: Farm Laborer

Registration district: St Thomas
Sub registration district: Topsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Trout 28
John Trout 38
John Trout 2
Mary Ann Trout 7
William Trout

Gemerald

Gemerald Report 12 Nov 2008 10:18

Possible 1861:
Name: John Trout
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Boy First Class (Boy)
Gender: Male
Where born: Clist St George, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Vessels
Town: Hamoaze
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Anglesey
Sub registration district: Holyhead
ED, institution, or vessel: Royal Adelaide (2)
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1

I havent posted others on Vessel as the list is rather long!
There is also a Francis Trout, aged 19 listed. Same place of birth as John

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 12 Nov 2008 10:19

Thanks Jeanette
Thre is a john age 13 which would match John age 2 in 1881 thre-Phew! Does it say in 1891 if John senior was born Clyst St George?-I'm so afraid of going wrong as thre are so many Trouts in a small area-Might as well almost be Smith!!

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 12 Nov 2008 10:22

Thanks Gemma-I'm thinking I know now why he's not in my tree-There's lots of maybe's aren't there!Many Thanks for everyone's help . Don't suppose nayone can see him in 1851 with parents in Clyst St Geogre-is there only one John there then? Please only help if you want to I don't want people to think I'm asking too much-

Gemerald

Gemerald Report 12 Nov 2008 10:24

I found another that could be possible:

1851:
Name: John Trout
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Charlotte
Gender: Male
Where born: Clist St George, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Clist St George
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: St Thomas
Sub registration district: Broad Clist
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Trout 33
Charlotte Trout 1
Elizabeth Trout 5
Henry Trout 32
John Trout 7
Mary Ann Trout 9

1861:
Name: John Trout
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Charlotte
Gender: Male
Where born: Clyst St George, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Clyst St George
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: St Thomas
Sub registration district: Topsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 58
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Trout 5
Charlotte Trout 43
Charlotte Trout 11
Elizabeth Trout 14
Henry Trout 44
John Trout 16
Louisa E Trout 2
William Trout 8



Jeanette

Jeanette Report 12 Nov 2008 10:27

there are 2 born Clyst St George b 1844

1851 England Census
about John Trout
Name: John Trout
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Charlotte
Gender: Male
Where born: Clist St George, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Clist St George
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: St Thomas
Sub registration district: Broad Clist
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Trout 33
Charlotte Trout 1
Elizabeth Trout 5
Henry Trout 32
John Trout 7
Mary Ann Trout 9


1851 England Census
about John Trout
Name: John Trout
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Clist St George, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Clist St George
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: St Thomas
Sub registration district: Broad Clist
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Frances Trout 32
Francis Trout 9
Jane Trout 34
Jane Trout 5wks
John Trout 7
Mary Grace Trout 3
Roger Trout 77


Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 12 Nov 2008 10:29

Oh Help!

I think I'll have to get John Voysey trouts Birth cert or find his marriage to Elziabeth adn order that cert aren't I! to get back any further-Thanks very much anyway-I'll keep all this and hopefuly solve it soon. Have a good day,