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Hello All,

I am unable to find out what happened to a sister & brother:

Arthur Gibon Rammell b 10 Mar 1865 Madras, India
Mary Jane Rammell b 28 May 1869 Bangalore India.
Parents Thomas Rammell & Honora McKenna

The father Thomas Rammell died 1876 India.

The mother Honora Rammell got married a second time to Francis T Warner in Dublin 1880.

Honora & Francis then moved to Kent UK.

They had three children (Francis, Herbert, Mary) & in 1891/1901/1911 where living in Woolwich. In 1911 Honora states that she had 9 children, 5 still alive so that would mean that Mary Jane & Arthur should still be around in 1911 unless she counted incorrectly!

In 1891 Mary Jane Rammell may have been in London a servant born India. I have not found a marriage for her.

Can anyone shed any light as to what happened to Mary Jane & ArthurRammell?

Thanks in advance,

Gillian

here they are in 1881 -


1881 England Census
Name: Honora Waine
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Francis
Gender: Female
Where born: Cork, Ireland

Civil parish: Woolwich
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 23 Brookhill Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Woolwich
Sub-registration district: Woolwich Arsenal
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Waine 35
Honora Waine 31
William Raunnell 10
Norah F. Raunnell 6




Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 747; Folio: 130; Page: 18; GSU roll: 1341175.

Hi Choccy,

Gosh, well done!!

I had assumed they were in Dublin as I couldn't find them in 1881 especially transcribed like that!!!

Thanks,

Gillian

Hi possible for the william that Choccy gave you on the 1881 census
1891 CENSUS

Name William Rammell
Age 20
Estimated Year of Birth 1871
Relationship to Head of Household Soldier
Occupation Gunner Royal Artillery
Address
District Rochford, Great Wakering
Parish South Shoebury
Administrative County Essex
Birth Place India British Subject
Birth County
RG 12 / 1394

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England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: William Rammell
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 26
District: Woolwich
County: Greater London, Kent, London
Volume: 1d
Page: 785

Births Dec 1874 (>99%)
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Rammell Norah Fanny Woolwich 1d 999

a maybe -


1901 England Census
Name: Fanny Rammell
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Woolwich, Kent, England

Civil parish: Plumstead
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Woolwich
Sub-registration district: Plumstead West
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 303
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Allson 58
Annie Allson 48
Charles J Scinphins 6
Fanny Rammell 26




Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 571; Folio: 213; Page: 51.

another possibility -

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
Name: Nora F Rammell
Spouse Surname: Miles
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1928
Registration district: Canterbury
Registration county (inferred): Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 2424
Find Spouse: Henry Miles

1911 -


CRANEFIELD, Philip Head Married M 57 1854 Railway Superintendent Middlesex Holloway VIEW
CRANEFIELD, Emily Harriet Wife Married
29 years F 54 1857 Middlesex City of London VIEW
CRANEFIELD, Violet Annie Daughter Single F 26 1885 Middlesex Acton VIEW
CRANEFIELD, Philip Archibald Son Single M 22 1889 Bank Clerk Middlesex Hammersmith VIEW
CRANEFIELD, Reginald Thomas Son Single M 15 1896 Scholar Surrey Clapham VIEW
CRANEFIELD, Dorothy Emily Daughter Single F 14 1897 Scholar Surrey Clapham VIEW
RAMWELL, Norah Fanny Servant Single F 36 1875 General Servant Domestic Kent Woolwich VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2733 Reference:
RG14PN2733 RG78PN94 RD29 SD2 ED4 SN190

Registration District:
Lewisham Sub District:
Lee Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
Lewisham

Address:
65 Granville Park Lewisham County:
London

Hi Choccy & Pollypocket,

Thanks for the extra info. I didn't realise there was another daughter Norah F Rammell b1874!! Strange she was born Woolwich & not India!! Her father Thomas died 1876 India. The family must have come to Woolwich without Thomas the father!

Thanks again,

Gillian