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I'm not sure if that is possible, but if it is I do not have any knowledge about that.

To attract others' attention change your heading to "army query 12th Feb" , hopefully someone will see it - if not let me know and we can try another approach.

Best of luck!

Jan

Hi Brummiejan I wonder if you could find anymore info on John Jones in the amry ,ie when he went in and came out. Or maybe tell me where I might find such information. John

Thank you all very much for the effort you have put into helping me, I have a bit more to work on now. Thank you all again> John

Hi Lynne think the family remained in the northeast as they had a family there. They had a son in 1852 in Walker, Tynemouth Newcastle. With the info from Madbull and SylviainaCanada your 1841 census looks good. Really appreciate your help. John

Thank you SylviainaCanada and Madbull very good help and it also brings Lynnes 1841 census into play John

from the new familysearch site

www.familysearch.org/#form=advanced-records


record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973

groom's name: John Jones
bride's name: Jane Simpson
marriage date: 1845
marriage place: All Saints, Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
bride's father's name: Alexander Simpson
indexing project (batch) number: M15606-4
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1068969



sylvia

1841 census??

SIMSON, Alexander M 35 1806 Scotland
SIMSON, Mary F 45 1796 Scotland
SIMSON, Jane F 12 1829 Scotland

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
488 Book/Folio:
15/8 Page:
9

Registration District:
Greenwich Sub District:
St Paul Deptford Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
St Paul Deptford Municipal Borough:
Greenwich Address:
Lucas Street, St Paul Deptford, Greenwich County:
Kent

Wife's father is named here:

JONES, John Marriage
Wife: Jane SIMPSON
Marriage Date: 18 Oct 1845 Recorded in: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Collection: All Saints
Wife's Father: Alexander SIMPSON
Source: FHL Film 1068969 Dates: 1844 - 1847

1861 census -

JONES, John Head Married M 45 1816 Labourer
Flintshire
JONES, Jane Wife Married F 50 1811 Labourer
Scotland

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RG number:
RG09 Piece:
2699 Folio:
126 Page:
26

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
1 Toxteth Park Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Matthew

Civil Parish:
Toxteth Park Municipal Borough:
Liverpool Address:
6, 15 Blands Court, Mann Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool County:
Lancashire

For your consideration.

I have found this in 1851 census - don't know if it is them or not? He is born ïn Flintshire (Wales) and she is born in Scotland

JONES, John Head Married M 35 1816 Braver Lab Band Beer Seller
Bangor
Flintshire
JONES, Jane Wife Married F 40 1811
Scotland
BROWN, Joseph Visitor M 8 1843 Scholar
Toxteth Park
Lancashire
BROWN, Ann Visitor F 4 1847
Toxteth Park
Lancashire
BEATHER, Alice Lead Servant Unmarried F 16 1835 General Servant
Toxteth Park
Lancashire

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
2187 Folio:
283 Page:
19

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
Toxteth Park Extra Parochial St Thomas Enumeration District:
1YY Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Thomas

Civil Parish:
Toxteth Park Extra Parochial Municipal Borough:
Liverpool Address:
52, Combermere Street, Toxteth Park Extra Parochial, Liverpool County:
Lancashire

Do you have the marriage certificate to see how old they say they are?

Thank you Lynne could this be my girl a bit younger than I thought. That is their marriage and no have not found them in the1851 census. John

Thank you Brummiejan a was a soldier that's interesting' John

Have you found them in the 1851 census?

Marriages Dec 1845 (>99%)
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Jones John Newtle Tyne 25 380
SIMPSON Jane Newcastle upon Tyne 25 380

1841 census -

SIMPSON, James M 40 1801 Scotland
SIMPSON, Margaret F 41 1800 Northumberland
SIMPSON, Jane F 15 1826 Scotland
SIMPSON, Mary F 13 1828 Scotland
SIMPSON, William M 8 1833 Northumberland

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
847 Book/Folio:
6/12 Page:
17

Registration District:
Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District:
St Andrew Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
St Andrew Municipal Borough:
Newcastle upon Tyne Address:
Liverpool Street, St Andrew, Newcastle Upon Tyne County:
Northumberland

Well, there is this John Jones born out of county (1841 doesn't usually give birthplace). He is a gunner?? In a barracks anyway.


District Newcastle Upon Tyne Cavalry Artillery and Infantry Barracks

1841 England Census

Name: John Jones
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: St Andrew
Hundred: Tindale (West Division)
County/Island: Northumberland

Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: St Andrew

Looking for a Jane simpson born in Scotland abt.1818 and a John jones born in Wales abt 1819. Expect they were living in Newcastle upon Tyne at this time. They were married there in 1845. Any help very much appreciated. John