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Access to 1939 census.

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Diane Susan

Diane Susan Report 26 Dec 2014 23:09

I am working on the Frederick Jolly family. He was married to Ethel Parfitt. I can't tell if I have the right family until I see the marriage certificate then see their two kids. The two kids, Stanton Frederick and Ronald Jolly would confirm. I can't find my Dad, Stan or uncle Ron in birth records. Stanton was born in 1912 and Ron about 4 years later.
They also went to Ceylon when Dad was 9- I found the travel info. On that.
Does anyone have any idea where to look?
Disne :-(


MargaretM Report 27 Dec 2014 10:50

Mother's maiden name was Parfect on this record:

Births Mar 1913 (>99%)

Jolly Stanton F Parfect W.Ham 4a 170



MargaretM Report 27 Dec 2014 10:53

The marriage:

Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)

Jolly Frederick C W. Ham 4a 324
Parfect Ethel M W.Ham 4a 324


MargaretM Report 27 Dec 2014 10:56

Ronald's birth but if they went to Ceylon when your dad was 9 they must have returned before Ronald's birth.

Births Mar 1922 (>99%)

Jolly Ronald H C Parfect W.Ham 4a 192

Edit: Oops just noticed that you said that Ronald was born 4 years after Stan. You also said tha Stan was born 1912 but record says 1913. Don't you have your father's birth certificate?

Also I've never heard of a 1939 census.


MargaretM Report 27 Dec 2014 11:14

Is this your Stanton Frederick arriving in New York? He's in transit to Hamilton, Ontario. I can't make out wife's name but there is a child Colin Stanton Jolly, aged 9.

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Stanton Frederick Jolly
Name: Stanton Frederick Jolly
Arrival Date: 18 Jun 1947
Birth Date: abt 1913
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: British (English)
Port of Departure: London Airport, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Airline: British Overseas Airways Corporation


MargaretM Report 27 Dec 2014 11:16

Yes, her name was Eileen on the passenger record.

Marriages Sep 1936 (>99%)

Bunyan Eileen W Jolly Romford 4a 1861
Jolly Stanton F Bunyan Romford 4a 1861


MargaretM Report 27 Dec 2014 11:31

Ethel in 1911, census was take 2 April, evidently before the marriage.

1911 England Census about Ethel Maud Parfeet
Name: Ethel Maud Parfeet
[Ethel Maud Parfect]
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Norwich, Norfolk
Civil Parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: 39 Sussex Street, Barking Rd, Plaistow E
Occupation: Blouse Machinist
Registration district: West Ham
Registration District Number: 188
Sub-registration district: Plaistow
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Household schedule number: 24
Piece: 9443
Household Members:
Name Age
John Barker Parfeet 54
Fanny Parfeet 55
Daisey Margaret Parfeet 29
Rosa Evelin Parfeet 25
Ethel Maud Parfeet 24
Thomas Barker Parfeet 20
George Frederick Parfeet 17
May Ellen Parfeet 14
John Barker Parfeet 10


MargaretM Report 27 Dec 2014 11:36

Possibly Frederick in 1911?

1911 England Census about Frederick Charles Jolly
Name: Frederick Charles Jolly
Age in 1911: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: East Ham, Essex
Civil Parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: 139 Boleyn Road, Forest Gate E
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Commercial Clerk
Registration district: West Ham
Registration District Number: 188
Sub-registration district: Forest Gate
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 174
Piece: 9377
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Jolly 48
Lucy Mary Ann Jolly 40
Frederick Charles Jolly 20
Selina McPherson 39


MargaretM Report 27 Dec 2014 11:40

If that 1911 census is correct this would be Frederick's parents' marriage:

Marriages Dec 1888 (>99%)

CARTER Lucy Mary A W. Ham 4a 99
JOLLY Charles W.Ham 4a 99

I could keep going but I'd better wait to hear back from you to make sure I'm on the right track.


MargaretM Report 27 Dec 2014 12:15

I've just realized why nobody else has responded to your request, Diane. We're on he Suggestion Board which is supposed to be for making suggestions to GR to improve the site. Not many people look at this board. Your request should have been on the Find Ancestors board. However we're here now.

Diane Susan

Diane Susan Report 28 Dec 2014 00:44

Hello Margee,

Yes, you have the correct information. Eileen and Stan Jolly did emigrate to Hamilton Ont. Canada with my brother, Colin. I was born on June 29, 1948 in Hamilton.
My father died in 1999 and my mother, Eileen died in 2013. My brother, Colin died in 2012.
I don' t know where you found the info re Ethel and Fred. I thank you so much. I understand there was no census during the Second World War. Thank you for finding the correct birthdate file Ron Jolly.
I found my parents' English passports when they emigrated. Stanton Jolly was born Dec.25th,1912. My mother would not tell me about her father, George Bunyan who Goya into some trouble. We were never able to prove his death and burial location. :-)