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shirley

shirley Report 28 Jul 2012 17:31

Hi. I am tracing my father's family in South Wales but have come to a blank.
I am hoping someone may be looking for the same family. My grandfather Morgan Hughes was born 1882 and lived in Morriston, Swansea. My gt. grandfather William Hughes b. 1849 Margam. My gt.gt. grandfather John Hughes is where the problems begin. He married Hannah Lewis Dec. 1st 1839 in Llandefeilog, Carmarthenshire. His father was Stephen Hughes. The marriage cert. for John just says 'of full age' for both john and hannah, so I assume this means anything from 21yrs. Please help if possible. :-(

patchem

patchem Report 28 Jul 2012 17:34

Have you tracked the family through all the censuses?
Thanks.

Added:
Is this the family in 1851?
1851 Wales Census
William Hughes Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Hughes
Mother's Name: Anna Hughes
Gender: Male Where born: Taibach, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Margam Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Registration district: Neath
Sub-registration district: Margam
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c Piece: 2462 Folio: 56 Page Number: 38 Household schedule number: 134
John Hughes 34 copperman Llanstephan, Carmarthenshire,
Anna Hughes 41 Llandefeilog, Carmarthenshire,
Margaret Hughes 5
William Hughes 2
Abele Williams 21
Henry Williams 17
Benjamin Evans 16
Catherine Gravel 21
Ann Roberts 2 Mo
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2462; Folio: 56; Page: 38; GSU roll: 104209.

Had Hannah/Anna been married before?

Hoped Stephen might be with them...
1841 Wales Census
John Hughes Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Civil parish: Margam Hundred: Newcastle
County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales
Occupation: copperman
Registration district: Neath Sub-registration district: Margam
Piece: 1422 Book: 18 Folio: 12 Page Number: 15
John Hughes 20
Hannah Hughes 30
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1422; Book: 18; Civil Parish: Margam; County: Glamorgan; Enumeration District: 5; Folio: 12; Page: 15; Line: 8; GSU roll: 464331.

shirley

shirley Report 29 Jul 2012 13:00

Hi. Tried to find John's birth to send for cert. but without success. I am new to this. The folio and page nos. you give; are they the ones I need to order the cert? Thanks.

patchem

patchem Report 29 Jul 2012 13:09

The folio and page numbers that I have given only relate to the census.
They are completely separate to the birth registration.
If you mean John Hughes born 1817, Llanstephan, Carmarthenshire in the 1851 census, there will be no birth certificate as they did not start until 1837.
You will need to look elsewhere.

Try here
https://www.familysearch.org/search/?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp