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Hi in the 1901 census george chapman age 44yrs widower is living in the aukland area with children robert 10,george 4, hilda 8, hannah 6, olive 2 and harriet gray 30 general servant. Go to the 1911 census and George is 50yrs with the same family only now Herriet is his wife of 21yrs. I have found the marraige for them 1890 so why did they lie.
Thanks Mags

For respectability..

Depends who gave the data as well, when they came knocking .


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Hi
They were married in 1890 so why say she was the servant in 1901 census
mags

Hi could anybody find them in the 1891 census for me thanks

It is a bit unusual I must say - she is clearly under maiden name 1901 though the transcriber has mistakenly put Chapman. How strange.
Jan

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Name: Hannah Chapman
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlestone, Durham, England

Civil parish: Middlestone
Ecclesiastical parish: Merrington St John the Evangelist
Town: Middlestone Moor
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 303
Household Members: Name Age
George Chapman 44
Harriet Chapman 30
Robert Chapman 10
George Chapman 4
Hilda Chapman 8
Hannah Chapman 6
Olive Chapman 2

1891


Robert Chapma
Age: 6/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Geo
Mother's Name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlestone Moor, Durham, England
Civil parish: Middlestone
Ecclesiastical parish: Merrington
Town: Middlestone Moor
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Household Members:
Name Age
Geo Chapma 30
Harriet Chapma 20
Robert Chapma 6/12

1901 census transcription details for: 38, Albion Street, Middlestone, Middlestone Moor
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 4648 Folio: 134 Page: 52

Reg. District: Auckland Sub District: Bishop Auckland
Parish: Middlestone Enum. District: 37
Ecclesiastical District: Merrington St John the Evangelist City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 38, Albion Street, Middlestone, Middlestone Moor
County: Durham
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
CHAPMAN, George Head Widower M 44 1857 Coal Miner Hewer
Thirsk
Yorkshire
GRAY, Harriet Servant Single F 30 1871 General Serv
B P Auckland
Durham
CHAPMAN, Robert Son Single M 10 1891
Middlestone
Durham
CHAPMAN, George Son Single M 4 1897
Middlestone
Durham
CHAPMAN, Hilda Daughter Single F 8 1893
Middlestone
Durham
CHAPMAN, Hannah Daughter Single F 6 1895
Middlestone
Durham
CHAPMAN, Olive Daughter Single F 2 1899
Middlestone
Durham



1891 census transcription details for: Durham Street, Middlestone, Middlestone Moor
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 4072 Folio: 54 Page: 46

Reg. District: Auckland Sub District: Bishop Auckland
Parish: Middlestone Enum. District: 31
Ecclesiastical District: Merrington City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Durham Street, Middlestone, Middlestone Moor
County: Durham
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
CHAPMAN, Geo Head Married M 30 1861 Coalminer
Thirsk
Yorkshire
CHAPMAN, Harriet Wife Married F 20 1871
Etherley Wood
Durhamshire
CHAPMAN, Robert Son M 0 (6M) 1891
Middlestone Moor
Durhamshire

George says he is a widow? maybe be this was a bigamist marriage?

jax

Yes Brummiejan
if i hadnt gone into the original census i wouldnt of known her name was gray and wouldnt of found the marraige but i cant find them on the 1891 census
mags

I've posted it for you!

Are you completely sure you have the right George Chapman? Who of his children is your next in line?

There appears to be several George Chapmans that's why I ask.

Is'nt the one Astra gave you the 1891 for them?

jax

George was born Yorks, just wondering:

1891 England Census

Name: George Chapman
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Hornby, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Auckland St Andrews
Ecclesiastical parish: Auckland St Andrews
Town: Deanery Pit
County/Island: Durham


Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland

George Chapman 30
Mary Jane Chapman 30
Thomas Chapman 5
John Oberon Chapman 3
Robert Chapman 4/12
Mary Mgt Chapman 2

EDIt can't be, have just seen the other 1891! But why change the story 1901 I wonder??

Thanks Astra
So they are saying they are married in 1891, not married 1901 and married in 1911. As they were married in 1890 the children must be hers so if there was a bigamist marraige it doesnt look like there was any children
Thanks mags

Both families in 1901, so not the same man (mind you both George's born Hornby and miners - hmm...)
Jan

Hi Astra this is definately them as hannah is my friends grandmother and my friend has a piece out the paper of the burial of george and harriet , robert , george and hannah are mentioned. thanks mags

could it be he had two families on the go ummmm?

jax

Exactly what I am thinkin Jax!
Jan

Hi this would be exciting, but on a miners wage and also isnt one born thirsk the other hornby. I wonder why he added 4 yrs to his age on the 1901 census. mags