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Richard

Richard Report 23 Apr 2010 09:46

I found Elizabeth Copperthwaite on the birth certificate of her son Thomas John Hart 1868. Maybe she did get married in Ireland.
Are there any website I could have a look to see if I could find them?

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 22 Apr 2010 19:58

Well done Helen!
Here they are in 1861 46 Henry Street Clerkenwell
Thomas Hart 22 Labourer to Omnibuses b Ireland
Elizabeth 19 wife b Shoreditch
Mary Hart 62 mother Formerly laundress

Maybe they were married in Ireland?

Helen

Helen Report 22 Apr 2010 14:50


London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980
about Elizth H Hart
Name: Elizth H Hart
Record Type: Burial
Event Date: 4 Apr 1908
Age: 64
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Parish: Saint Pancras Old Church
Borough: Camden
County: Middlesex

Helen

Helen Report 22 Apr 2010 14:48


1881 England Census
about Elizabeth Hart
Name: Elizabeth Hart
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: St James, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St James Clerkenwell
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 9 Owens Court
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: General Labourer

Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: Goswell Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hart 42
Elizabeth Hart 39
Robert Hart 17
Thomas Hart 12
James Hart 7
Eliza Hart 6
Amy Hart 3

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 22 Apr 2010 14:44

Going back to the original question -the ONLY marriage I can find for Elizabeth Hannah Copperthwaite is in 1905 Mar Q St George in the East 1c 383. The possible bridegrooms are Robert F Fullerton or Richard William Napper
She does not seem to figure in the censuses after 1851 when she is Eliza. Her father Thomas died in 1850 and I have searched for a remarriage of Mary -in vain -in case the children apear under a stepfathers name in 1861. As well as Eliza there was Thomas John 1849 and Ann bap 12/7/1846 Hackney

Nor can I find Elizabeth Hannah Hart married to Thomas in later censuses

I think you are going to have to give us more info -how did you get back to these 2 -why do you think they married?

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 22 Apr 2010 13:51

Thomas Copperthwaite b 1807 buried 24/4/1850 St Lukes Finsbury
Thomas married Mary Williams aged 20 4/2/1838 St Giles Cripplegate. Tjhomas was a widower and a carman by occupation. His father Thomas -Labourer and her father Evan -Sawyer

Helen

Helen Report 22 Apr 2010 12:56


1851 England Census
about Eliza Copperthwaite
Name: Eliza Copperthwaite
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Luke Old Street
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: St Luke
Sub-registration district: Old Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 5b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 98
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Copperthwaite 31
Eliza Copperthwaite 8
Thomas Copperthwaite 2

Cheshiremaid

Cheshiremaid Report 22 Apr 2010 12:49



The baptism of the above birth reference from Catherine...

Name: Elizabeth Hannah Copperthwaite
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 8 Oct 1843
Father's Name: Thomas Copperthwaite
Mother's Name: Mary Copperthwaite
Parish: St James, Shoreditch
Borough: Hackney
County: Middlesex

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Apr 2010 12:43

Quick search on freebmd for Elizabeth Hannah Copperthwaite showed only one birth:-

Births Dec 1843 (>99%)
COPPERTHWAITE Elizabeth Hannah Shoreditch 2 421

.............is this her?

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Apr 2010 10:44

need an indication of century and a location

there are 92 Elizabeth Copperthwaite's on the census aound the world

Richard

Richard Report 22 Apr 2010 10:43

trying to find the date of the marriage of Thomas Hart and Elizabeth Hannah Copperthwaite. (Her father could have been called Thomas)