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Jayne

Jayne Report 25 Apr 2011 21:13

Hello folks,

I have been trying to find William Neve born c1803 Hethersett Norfolk and his wife Mary Page born c1806 Norfolk with no success after 2 years of looking where I can. Their children were Martha Neve born 1832 Norfolk, Pleasance Neve born 1834 Norfolk and Ann Neve born 1838 Norfolk.

In recent weeks, I have had contact with a fellow GR member, who said that they emigrated to the USA C1850 and that Mary died in Montcalm Co. Michigan in 1894 and to look at a family tree named the Trails of Michigan on the World Connect website , which I tried, but with no success so far .

Could you by any chance put me in the right direction as to where I could find it? I would really appreciate any thoughts you may have as I am completely stuck . . .

Sorry to be a nuisance again and thanks in advance for any help at all that you might be able to find for me.

Many thanks,

Jayne

Staffslass

Staffslass Report 25 Apr 2011 21:19

1841 Census

1841 census - household transcription

Person: NEVE, Ann
Address: Union Lane, St Margaret, Sedgeford Lane, Kings Lynn

Cost:
You will be charged 5 credits for a transcript and 5 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records.

census search results 1841 address search redefine current search
Name Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image
NEVE, William M 30 1811 Norfolk VIEW
NEVE, Mary F 35 1806 Norfolk VIEW
NEVE, Martha F 9 1832 Norfolk VIEW
NEVE, Pleasance F 7 1834 Norfolk VIEW
NEVE, Ann F 3 1838 Norfolk VIEW
ROPER, Thomas M 35 1806 Norfolk VIEW
ROPER, Ann F 30 1811 Norfolk VIEW
ROPER, Isabella F 7 1834 Norfolk VIEW
RG number:
HO107 Piece:
786 Book/Folio:
11 Page:
15

Registration District:
Kings Lynn Sub District:
Middle Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
St Margaret Municipal Borough:
Kings Lynn Address:
Union Lane, St Margaret, Sedgeford Lane, Kings Lynn County:
Norfolk

alviegal

alviegal Report 25 Apr 2011 21:32

This appears to be the one that was mentioned in the US. She may not be the one you are looking for.

1870 United States Federal Census
about Mary Neve
Name: Mary Neve
Birth Year: abt 1808
Age in 1870: 62
Birthplace: England
Home in 1870: Pierson, Montcalm, Michigan
Race: White
Gender: Female
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Neve 62
Robert Neve 17
Mira Hucksberry 25
Wm Hucksberry 9
Maria Hucksberry 7
John Hucksberry 6
A Quackenbush 33


There is a 40 year old Edwin and 28 year old Emeline Neve in the next household, both born in England.

patchem

patchem Report 25 Apr 2011 21:34

If you cannot find the Trails of Michigan on the World Connect site, why not ask the genes member who originally told you about it as to how to access it?
I would guess that you might need a paid subscription to ancestry to see it, is that the problem why you cannot access it?
Are they direct ancestors of yours, or just a sideline?
Thanks

Jayne

Jayne Report 25 Apr 2011 21:38

Hello Patchem,
Yes, unfortunately it does need a paid subscription to Ancestry, but I already have GR and FMP and can't afford another subscription . . .
Sorry, but thanks for your reply.
Jayne

Mary

Mary Report 25 Apr 2011 21:51

Free site

Go to www.rootsweb.com or google it.

Where it says Search Rootsweb.com on left hand side put in William Neve and click on search
It goes to worldconnect and there are 101 results click that.
Go to 4th page 10 down owner of tree Minzey2008 she has William as 1811 but it is the same one.

This has all your families info.

Maryb

Staffslass

Staffslass Report 25 Apr 2011 21:56

2 sets of records that could possibly be connected to the ones alviegal posted.

The 1880 US census and the 1841 UK census



Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Edward NEVE Self M Male W 45 ENG Farmer ENG ENG
Emeline NEVE Wife M Female W 37 ONT Keeping House ONT ONT
Albert NEVE ASon S Male W 12 MI At School US US
Emma NEVE ADau S Female W 9 MI At School US US
Mary NEVE Mother W Female W 71 ENG ENG ENG


erson: NEVE, Edward
Address: Silt Pits, Walpole St Peter

Cost:
You will be charged 5 credits for a transcript and 5 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records.

census search results 1841 address search redefine current search
Name Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image
NEVE, William M 30 1811 Norfolk VIEW
NEVE, Mary F 25 1816 Norfolk VIEW
NEVE, Edward M 10 1831 Norfolk VIEW
NEVE, James M 8 1833 Norfolk VIEW
NEVE, Amelia F 6 1835 Norfolk VIEW
NEVE, Sarah F 4 1837 Norfolk VIEW
NEVE, Robert M 2 1839 Norfolk VIEW
RG number:
HO107 Piece:
770 Book/Folio:
41 Page:
11

Registration District:
Wisbech Sub District:
Walpole St Peter Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Walpole St Peter Municipal Borough:
Address:
Silt Pits, Walpole St Peter County:
Norfolk

patchem

patchem Report 25 Apr 2011 22:07

These are claimed to be the children of William and Mary on the Minzey tree:
1. Has Children Edward Neve b: 05 Feb 1830 in Norfolk, England
2. Has Children Benjamin Neve b: abt 1842 in England
3. Has Children Sarah Ann Neve b: abt 1837 in Norfolk, England
4. Has Children Robert William Neve b: 22 Mar 1853 in Rotterdam, New York
5. Has No Children William Robert Neve b: abt 1839 in Norfolk England
6. Has No Children Amelia Neve b: 18 Jan 1835 in England
7. Has Children Maria Neve b: 27 Apr 1845 in England
8. Has Children James Page Neve b: Oct 1832 in Norfolk, England
9. Has No Children Walter Neve b: 1833 in Norfolk, England

patchem

patchem Report 25 Apr 2011 22:12

1841 England Census
William Neve
Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male Where born: Norfolk, England
Civil parish: St Peter Walpole Hundred: Freebridge Marsh Land County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Registration district: Wisbech
Sub-registration district: Walpole St Peter
Piece: 770 Book: 10 Folio: 41 Page Number: 11
William Neve 30
Mary Neve 25
Edward Neve 10
James Neve 8
Amelia Neve 6
Sarah Neve 4
Robert Neve 2
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 770; Book: 10; Civil Parish: St Peter Walpole; County: Norfolk; Enumeration District: 4; Folio: 41; Page: 11; Line: 12; GSU roll: 438858.

So, a different family, surely?

Added: sorry, staffslass, same 1841 as you posted.

Jayne

Jayne Report 25 Apr 2011 22:15

Hello again Patchem,
I confess that I have never heard of the Minzey tree! What is that?! Sounds interesting though. . .
James Page Neve is also one of the pivotal folks on my research (such as I can) and would love to be able to put him on my tree!
Thanks again for your help
Jayne

patchem

patchem Report 25 Apr 2011 22:24

James Page Neve is in the Minzey tree which is the Trails of Michigan one.
I do not know if he is anywhere as James Page Neve, or just James P Neve and the Page assumed.
In the 1841 census that I posted, the James there is supposed to be James Page Neve on the USA censuses. This would mean that your Martha, Pleasance and Ann are not related.
Where do you connect Martha, Pleasance and Ann to William Neve and Mary Page?

patchem

patchem Report 25 Apr 2011 22:28

1860 United States Federal Census
James Neve
Age in 1860: 27 Birth Year: abt 1833
Birthplace: England Norfolkshire
Home in 1860: Pearsons, Mecosta, Michigan
Gender: Male Post Office: Pearsons
James Neve 27
Anstis Neve 26
Page Neve 4
Charlotte Neve 1
Mary J King 17
Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Pearsons, Mecosta, Michigan; Roll: M653_554; Page: 125; Image: 125; Family History Library Film: 803554.

Jayne

Jayne Report 25 Apr 2011 22:39

Hello again Patchem,
I do already have a fair amount of the Neve family on my tree, as I live in Norfolk and I am looking to find details of how Mary and William fared in the USA and also any children over there and if/when any of them died.
Thanks again for all your help - I will try to access the information you have given tomorrow (it's almost 11 pm here right now so don't want to offend anyone) and I will see what I can find tomorrow.
Thanks to you all for your help - you are all amazing!
Jayne

patchem

patchem Report 25 Apr 2011 22:50

Your William, Mary and daughter Ann in 1861 (occupation for William agrees with 1841 census)?:
1861 England Census
William Neve
Age: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Neve
Gender: Male Where born: North Wootton, Norfolk, England
Civil parish: Kings Lynn St Margaret Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Norfolk Registration district: Kings Lynn Sub-registration district: Kings Lynn Middle
ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 183
Piece: 1256 Folio: 55 Page Number: 33

William Neve 52 carpenter
Mary Neve 55
Ann Neve 22
Mary Bovatt 26 lodger

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1256; Folio: 55; Page: 33; GSU roll: 542784.

Jayne

Jayne Report 26 Apr 2011 07:24

Oh my goodness! Thank you all so much for all of the information you have found for me! I really do appreciate it and will get cracking this evening when I get home from work!
Thanks again,
Jayne

Mary

Mary Report 26 Apr 2011 13:56

James Page Neve 23/10/1831 died 71/1920 USA married Anstis Kenney 1833-1872.

Google Anstis Kenney,5th down result page title Names Index Page has all your relies.

Another result has photo of Anstis Kenney.

Maryb

Jayne

Jayne Report 26 Apr 2011 18:44

Hello Mary,
Thanks for your advice. I am really quite excited with all of the information all of you have found for me and I am quite overwhelmed!
The Neve family in its entirety is massive and my branch (as far as I've got to to date) comes from Hethersett Norfolk, but there are an even wider family across Norfolk, Cambridgeshire and down to Suffolk (Ethel Neve!!), so it's often difficult to tell who belongs to whom as they all use the same names for their children - pre-1837 especially!
Thanks again to you and the others for your help.
Jayne