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Ok, yes. Didn't look at the date she last posted!

Hi Jonathan welcome to the boards

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Hello, I think the Richard Ray (born 1907 died 1957) you are trying to trace is my grandfather. However, Richard W Ray and Alice Ray are not his parents but his grandparents. His mother is Alice Ray, daughter of the aforementioned.

Alice Ray (daughter) is listed in the 1901 census but not the 1911. My grandfather's birth certificate says his mother's name was Alice, she was aged 20 in 1907 and his father is listed as unknown. Although he is listed as a son of Richard W Ray and Alice Ray (senior) in the 1911 census his birth certificate completely contradicts this. Therefore, he is not the brother of Henry, your grandfather, but Henry is probably his uncle.

My father said he never met any of his family on his dad's side and my grandfather never spoke about his parents or extended family. My father was born in Wandsworth and grew up in Battersea and the only thing he was told by his father was that he was raised by a family called Speers in Wandsworth. Alice Ray married a George Speers in 1911 which would explain some part of this.

My father is no longer with us so I would love to hear from you about the Ray family as we really no nothing about my grandfathers family.

Thanks. IMaybe I will check out the one who died in 1992 and see what I can find.

Christine, I wouldn't assume that he had died young just because his brother never mentioned him. My husband's father had several half brothers and sisters that his children knew nothing of - even though they mostly lived in the same area.

It may be worth checking out that 1950 death certificate.

There are the 3 possible births already listed.

LadyKira hs shown that the Camberwell Richard died in 1907.


and this looks like Richard Albert Ray's death.

Name: Richard Albert Ray
Birth Date: 28 Dec 1906
Death Registration Month/Year: Feb 1992
Age at death (estimated): 85
Registration district: Swindon
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume: 23
Page: 2653


So by a process of elimination that 1950 death looks like there is a good chance that he is your Richard - unless your Richard died outwith England and that 1950 chap was born elsewhere.




EDIT

Sorry just for reference here are the 3 possible births.

Births Mar 1907 (>99%)
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RAY Richard Camberwell 1d 881
RAY Richard Albert Lambeth 1d 341

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Births Jun 1907 (>99%)
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RAY Richard Wandsworth 1d 701

Richard Ray b. 1907 was living in Wandsworth at the time of the 1911 census, aged 4. Henry, his brother, aged 5 at the time never mentioned him at all to my mum so from that I am assuming that he died very young.

This one died


Name: Richard Ray
Estimated birth year: abt 1907
Year of Registration: 1907
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 0
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 592 (click to see others on page)

I think unlikeley to be Wandsworth one as Mum and Dad are in Lambeth 1901 and 11.

1901 census - household transcription
Person: RAY, Richard W
Address: 41, Wickham Street, Lambeth
RAY, Richard W Head Married M 42 1859 General Labourer
Lambeth
London
RAY, Alice Wife Married F 36 1865
Lambeth
London
RAY, Mary Daughter Single F 16 1885 Box Maker
Lambeth
London
RAY, Alice Daughter Single F 14 1887
Lambeth
London
RAY, Amy Daughter Single F 11 1890
Lambeth
London
RAY, Primrose Daughter Single F 9 1892
Lambeth
London
RAY, Louisa Daughter Single F 6 1895
Lambeth
London
RAY, Eleanor G Daughter Single F 3 1898
Lambeth
London
RAY, William Son Single M 1 1900
Lambeth
London

For background, this one?
RAY, R W Head Married M 52 1859 General Labourer Lambeth London
RAY, A Wife Married 28 years F 46 1865 Lambeth London
RAY, Mary Daughter Single F 26 1885 Fancy Box Maker Lambeth London
RAY, Rose Daughter Single F 19 1892 Fancy Box Maker Lambeth London
RAY, Louisa Daughter Single F 16 1895 Lambeth London
RAY, Nellie Daughter F 13 1898 Lambeth London
RAY, William Son M 11 1900 Lambeth London
RAY, Lily Daughter F 9 1902 Lambeth London
RAY, John Son M 8 1903 Tooting London
RAY, Henry Son M 5 1906 Tooting London
RAY, Richard Son M 4 1907 Tooting London
RG number: RG14 Piece: 2367 Reference: RG14PN2367 RG78PN78B RD26 SD5 ED82 SN193
Registration District: Wandsworth Sub District:
Streatham Enumeration District: 82 Parish: Wandsworth Borough
Address: 18 Fairlight Road Tooting London S W County: London
(Alice made her mark at the bottom of the sheet)

which one is he?
Name: Richard Ray
Year of Registration: 1907
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Wandsworth
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 701

or
Name: Richard Albert Ray
Year of Registration: 1907
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Lambeth
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 341

Maybe??

Name: Richard Ray
Death Registration Month/Year: 1957
Age at death (estimated): 50
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5c
Page: 1340

do you know any more abut him .did he marry etc.

Hi

I am trying to find the date of death of Richard Ray. I have found him on the 1911 census aged 4. His parents were Richard and Alice Ray.

Any help greatly appreciated.