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Margaret

Margaret Report 24 Apr 2011 07:42

Hi Maureen
Yes, I have done a Tree Search, no luck.
Not so sure about only researchers seeing the surnames. That is how I got into all this and have got as far as I have - just scrolling through messages on every message board I can find, searching for surnames. The first breakthrough I had was from a message posted four years earlier.
I will get on now with my searching.
Thanks again.
Margaret

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 24 Apr 2011 03:49

Hi Margaret,
No new threads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The point is that we helpers (call us crazy) are about the only people who will "see" your surnames on here.
Have you tried *Search Trees" for matches?

Darn-I can't explain anything.

Maureen

Margaret

Margaret Report 24 Apr 2011 02:09

Thanks Lynne, I will give that a go. This is helpful information.

Lynski

Lynski Report 24 Apr 2011 02:01

You could try changing the heading of your original thread to the surname you are looking for and then add the request to it so that all information is kept together.

Margaret

Margaret Report 24 Apr 2011 01:31

Hi Guys,
Thanks for your messages. I am still a bit confused. Yesterday, by using SMART as a heading I was able to verify who my G.Grandparents were. This was not possible from information already on my SOMMERVILLE thread, so I thought people researching Smart may have been able to help (which you did, thanks Maureen). Now that I know she was not a Smart but a Keays, are you saying I cannot start a thread with KEAYS as a heading? Why would anyone researching Keays look under Sommerville? How do I now try to make contact with KEAYS relatives?
Any assistance appreciated.
Margaret

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 23 Apr 2011 15:02

I'm not offended,Margaret.

It would be wise,though, to take Janey's advice. Just keep to one thread and let us work our "collaborative best" on your info. (Good heavens,I was fumbling around in Scotland all alone last night-not knowing others had been there/done that!!).

I'm not certain what you mean by "I will continue my research from here.".

Good luck,
Maureen

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 23 Apr 2011 08:48

I will go to my grave not understanding this English refrain of "sorry if I have offended". There is no issue of offending anyone here.

What you did was break the plain rule against multiple posts about the same person, and the predictable result occurred: Maureen spent time "finding" things that were not lost, particularly because others had spent time finding them in your other thread.

You can click on Help Clinic to review the instructions that are presented when you start a thread, including:

"Please don’t post about the same person or family twice as this can make extra work for the volunteer helpers."

You can also click below the reply box where it says

"Before posting, please read the guidelines for message board use."

and read there:

"Please do not submit the same or similar material more than once."

You simply started a new thread as if nothing had ever been done to help you with this request in the past. Given the response to your first post, was it not entirely foreseeable that other members would respond the same way this time, by trying their best to help find answers? and thus duplicate the effort already put into it.

If there is new information about a person there is already a thread about, it needs to be added to that thread.

The benefit for yourself is that people who have already worked on the problem will see that something new has been added and will take another look at the problem, with all the work done to date readily accessible.

Margaret

Margaret Report 23 Apr 2011 08:42

Thanks to those who have assisted in this search, it appears I have done something wrong but not sure what. I had no satisfaction on my Sommerville search looking for Jeans parents and just found out her mothers maiden name was Smart, so asked for assistance finding this one. Information I have says her father was a soldier. Apparently the maiden name was not Smart and the father was not a soldier, but thanks Maureen, I will continue my research from here.
Sorry if I have offended anyone.
Regards,
Margaret

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 23 Apr 2011 06:32

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/thread/1258813

Rather astounding.

Perhaps you missed all the rules/instructions about not posting the same thing twice.

If you want the information to appear on the Smart "surname board" as well as Sommerville, pointing out that you are not looking for help searching (given all the help already offered) and/or linking to the other thread is essential.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 23 Apr 2011 04:21

Perhaps her mother's surname wasn't Smart????

1901 census transcription details for: 43& 44, Durham Road, Benfieldside

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 4668 Folio: 60 Page: 10


Reg. District: Lanchester Sub District: Consett
Parish: Benfieldside Enum. District: 7
Ecclesiastical District: St Cuthberts City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 43& 44, Durham Road, Benfieldside
County: Durham
SOMERVILLE, John Head Married M 52 1849 Iron Monger
Shotts Lanarkshire Scotland
SOMERVILLE, Jennie Wife Married F 51 1850
Dumfirmline Fife Scotland
SOMERVILLE, John W H Son Single M 26 1875 Iron Monger Assistant
Dysart Fife Scotland
SOMERVILLE, William Son Single M 19 1882 Plumbers Apprentice
Dysart Fife Scotland
SOMERVILLE, Nellie D Daughter Single F 17 1884
Dysart Fife Scotland
SOMERVILLE, Jennie E K Daughter Single F 14 1887
Dysart Fife Scotland
PATRICK, James Nephew Single M 25 1876 Vanman Iron Monger
Lesmahagon Lanarkshire Scot

................

Free BMD
Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%)

KEAYS Jane Smart Durham 10a 606
SOMMERVILLE John Durham 10a 606

..................

This is from a quick look on Scotlands People:
No Year Surname Forename Sex District City/
County/
MR GROS
Data Image Extract
1 1884 SOMMERVILLE JAMES WILKIE M DYSART /FIFE 426/00 0060
2 1887 SOMMERVILLE JANE SMART KEAY F DYSART /FIFE 426/00 0025
3 1883 SOMMERVILLE NELLY DOWNS F DYSART /FIFE 426/00 0361
4 1881 SOMMERVILLE WILLIAM M DYSART /FIFE 426/00 0203


Maureen

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 23 Apr 2011 03:01

Just for ref- is this her??
Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Miss Jeannie SOMMERVILLE
Date of departure: 9 November 1921
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Sydney
Destination country: Australia

Date of Birth: 1887 (calculated from age)
Age: 34
Marital Status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: Clerk
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 22 of 33
Ship: BELTANA
Official Number: 131853
Master's name: Captain B Cornewall-Jones
Steamship Line: P. & O. Branch Service
Where bound: Australia
Square feet: 21124
Registered tonnage: 7031
Passengers on voyage: 1069

Listed right above her is:
Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Mr Archibald BEVERIDGE
Date of departure: 9 November 1921
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Sydney
Destination country: Australia

Date of Birth: 1884 (calculated from age)
Age: 37
Marital Status:
Sex: Male
Occupation: Organiser
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 22 of 33
Ship: BELTANA
Official Number: 131853
Master's name: Captain B Cornewall-Jones
Steamship Line: P. & O. Branch Service
Where bound: Australia
Square feet: 21124
Registered tonnage: 7031
Passengers on voyage: 1069



1911 census transcription details for: 43 and 44 Durham Road Blackhill
RG14PN29884 RG78PN1730 RD550 SD2 ED7 SN49


Reg. District: Lanchester Sub District: Consett
Parish: Benfieldside Enum. District: 7
Address: 43 and 44 Durham Road Blackhill
County: Durham

SOMMERVILLE, John Head Married M 62 1849 Ironmonger Lanarkshire Shotts
SOMMERVILLE, Jane Wife Married
38 years F 61 1850 Fife Crossgate
SOMMERVILLE, Jeannie S K Daughter Single F 22 1889 Grocers Bookkeeper Fife Kirkcaldy
DICKSON,(Dickison on image). Jeannie Granddaughter Single F 11 1900 School Yorks Normanton

6 children born. 5 living.

Have you tried Scotlands People for a marriage for her parents?

Maureen

Margaret

Margaret Report 23 Apr 2011 02:21


Hi, I am looking for information on a Jeanie SMART from Kirkealdy who married a John Sommerville. Their daughter, Jean Sommerville, came to Australia around 1920 and became Jean Beveridge, my grandmother. Information is sketchy, but would love to hear from anyone who has connections.
Many thanks,
Margaret