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Bernard

Bernard Report 2 Aug 2010 18:05

My ancestor Willam[ H]elmer Suling was born 8th oct 1838[my ggf] He had 2 brothers Henry Christian[born 1833] and Henry Frederick[born 1833]They were all Christened on the same day [25th Sept 1842]in Tower Hamlets.Please can anyone tell what happened to Christian?
!861 census shows William living with his ""wife"" Eliza and daughter Mary Ann[should be Sarah Ann!] Living in Devonshire Street[slum!. I would like to know about the ""boys"" parents and who was Eliza[surname?]. William took off to New Zealand alone in 1873.Please can anyone help?

Astra

Astra Report 2 Aug 2010 18:16

The baptisms

Almer William Suling Baptism 25 Sep 1842 Henry Frederick Suling,
Sarah Suling Christ Church, Watney Street Tower Hamlets

Henry Christian Suling Baptism 25 Sep 1842 Henry Frederick Suling,
Sarah Suling Christ Church, Watney Street Tower Hamlets

Henry Frederick Suling Baptism 25 Sep 1842 Henry Frederick Suling,
Sarah Suling Christ Church, Watney Street Tower Hamlets

Mike *

Mike * Report 2 Aug 2010 18:18

Did they really christen 2 sons Henry on the same day ?
You have 1833 as both birth dates ... were they twins ?

This looks like Frederick's death but no sign of Henry Christian
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Deaths Sep 1860

Suling Henry Frederick - St Geo East 1c 271

Astra

Astra Report 2 Aug 2010 18:19

1851


Christian Suling
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Frederick>>>>>Born Hanover???
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: St George, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St George in The East
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick Suling 56
Sarah Suling 43
Christian Suling 16
Hannah Suling 6

Mike *

Mike * Report 2 Aug 2010 18:23

Connection ?
#
HELMER SULING
Male
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Event(s):
Birth: 20 SEP 1823

Christening: 05 OCT 1823 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
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Parents:
Father: CHRISTIAN SULING
Mother: JEAN THOM

Astra

Astra Report 2 Aug 2010 18:25

Henry Frederick Juniors marriage but nothing for Christian or William

Henry Frederick Suling
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Spouse Name: Sarah Ann Clements
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Aug 1859
Parish: St Anne, Limehouse
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Henry Frederick Suling
Spouse Father Name: George Clements

Astra

Astra Report 2 Aug 2010 18:46

Trying to work out who the child born in 1845 (mis-transcribed as Hannah (Son) on the 1851) is. Can't figure out what it says so looked for the birth and it must be Herman Henry. They certainly liked the name Henry! Sorry going off at a tangent when we are supposed to be looking for Christian!

Births Jun 1844 (>99%)
SULING Herman Henry St. Geo. East 2 113

So this looks like him with his wife in 1871

Henry Suling
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Alice
Gender: Male
Civil parish: St George
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: London Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 269
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Suling 25>>>>Stickmaker?
Alice Suling 38>>>>>Born Germany
William Suling 8


Bernard

Bernard Report 3 Aug 2010 23:05

thanks again you are all onto my ancestors.Sorry Michael Henry Christian was born in 1834 not 1833 so is not a twin!He is being difficult to trace and I feel he may have gone to the States.
Still dont know what happened to William and Elizas marriage.Would still like to know about her.Their daughter Sarah Ann married in 1889 to a Henry Huggett,William going to NZ at that time was a bit of an adventure.He married a Mary Collinson in NZ who had been a fellow passenger travelling with her husband and family on the Woodlark.His name bacame Seeling thereafter[easy to see what happened there.Writing Suling could look very much like Seeling!!]
The Scottish Suling I know about but nothing else so dont know if they are related to me.