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Marian
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22 Oct 2008 01:54 |
Thanks Sylvia and Ozi for your help so far.
Yes, George was previously married to Eliza Payne, the mother of both Alfred and Emily, but she died in 1879.
In 1881 George and his brother Samuel were lodging in Berkshire but George was described as 'Unmarried' - not a Widower!
Emily was with her maternal grandparents, the Payne family, but was described as a 'lodger'! I also thought she was a likely candidate to be Daisy's mother but in the 1901 Census she was living with her paternal grandparents and still unmarried.
Alfred puzzles me. I cannot find him in the 1881 Census now but thought I once spotted him in an orphanage in Lincoln (George's birthplace). I cannot find him in the 1901 Census either.
I did wonder .........did Alfred change his name to Ingerfield? If so, why?
Daisy's birthdate would fit in with Alfred and Kate's marriage but I ruled out the possibility of Kate being another daughter of George and Eliza when I found her birth record as Kate Julia Howe in 1876.
I know Daisy's birth certificate would give me the answers but I wanted to exhaust all other avenues first. Daisy is not in my direct line but I hate leaving loose ends. George was a nephew of my Great Grandmother, Susannah Broughton.
I'll keep digging for a while just to see if anything else turns up.
Many thanks once again and good luck
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21 Oct 2008 03:53 |
I wish I could find any of the others on the 1881!!
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21 Oct 2008 03:50 |
The only thing to do ........ is to buy Daisy's birth certificate.
That will solve the problem once and for all!
sylvia
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21 Oct 2008 03:50 |
I think this is the kate Howe who married the Albert Ingerfield ................... note the birthplace is Walton as indicated on the 1901 Census
1881 Census
Name: Kate Howe Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Walton, Somerset, England Civil Parish: Walton County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street address: Main Street Or Road
Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Wells Sub registration district: Glastonbury ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ellen Howe 9 Harry Howe 6 John Howe 40 Ag Lab Kate Howe 4 Mary Howe 31 Thomas J. Howe 8 William Howe 1 - - - - and in 1891
Name: Kate J Howe Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Walton Civil Parish: Walton Ecclesiastical parish: Walton Town: Walton County/Island: Somerset Country: England Registration district: Wells Sub registration district: Glastonbury ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alice Howe 4 Ellen Howe 19 Harry D Howe 16 James Howe 8 Kate J Howe 14 Factory Hand Mary Howe 41 Widow, Shoe Binder Thomas J Howe 18 William D Howe 11 Tom Warman 22
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21 Oct 2008 03:19 |
You know ................. you might be on to something Ozi!
Anne Broguhton in 1891 is pretty young to have a 16 year old daughter.
I wonder if George was married before, Emily is the daughter of the first wife, and Anne a second wife?
If her name was Howe, and Kate is her daughter ...............
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21 Oct 2008 03:09 |
& this isn't a connection?
1901 England Census Name: Alfred Ingerfield Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Kate Gender: Male Where born: Reading, Berkshire, England <<<< Civil Parish: Street Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Street County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street address: 161 High St
Occupation: shoemaker
Registration district: Wells Sub registration district: Glastonbury ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 57 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Ingerfield 23 Kate Ingerfield 24 - shoemaker; Walton Somerset Winifred Ingerfield 2 George Ingerfield 9 months Marriages Jun 1895 Howe Kate Julia Wells 5c 906 Ingerfield Alfred Albert Wells 5c 906
Births Dec 1876 Howe Kate Julia Wells 5c 512
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21 Oct 2008 01:40 |
1891 Census
Name: George Broughton Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Anne Gender: Male Where born: Sleaford, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Street Ecclesiastical parish: Street County/Island: Somerset Country: England Registration district: Wells Sub registration district: Glastonbury ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alfred Broughton 13 b.ca 1878, Reading, Berkshire Anne Broughton 29 b.ca 1861, Reading, Berkshire Emily Broughton 16 b.ca 1875, Street, Somerset George Broughton 38 Clicker Richard Buttler 60
sylvia
Daughter Emily looks a prime candidate to be the right age to have a child by 1901!
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21 Oct 2008 01:36 |
Here is her birth registration from www.freebmd.org.uk
Births Dec 1895 (>99%) Ingerfield Daisy Maud Wells 5c 449
Now you can go to www.gro.gov.uk, and order her actual birth certificate.
That will tell you her parents' names, and her mother's madien name.
That is the only way you can be certain of ehr parentage.
Each certificate will cost £7
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21 Oct 2008 01:34 |
For reference
Is this the 1901 record
1901 Census
Name: Daisey M Ingerfield Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Street, Somerset, England Civil Parish: Street Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Street County/Island: Somerset Country: England Registration district: Wells Sub registration district: Glastonbury ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 175 Household Members: Name Age Annie Broughton 37 b.ca 1864, Reading, Berkshire George O Broughton 47 b.ca 1854, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, Clicker (Boot Worker) Daisey M Ingerfield 5
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Marian
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21 Oct 2008 01:29 |
Daisy is shown on the 1901 Census Record as being a granddaughter of George Broughton but I am puzzled as to her parentage.
I can find no Broughton/Ingerfield marriages and am hoping someone may be able to help me.
Although living in Street, Somerset, there are also family connections in Reading, Berkshire.
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