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Hi everyone.

I'm having some major issues in a branch of my tree.

My relative George Cheeseman born 1827 in Bingley, West Yorkshire is married to an Amelia Ward (born 1826) on the early censuses. They have four kids, then on the 1871 census he is then married to a Lydia... On that census, the kids from the previous marriage are there, aswell as some new additions, which I assume are kids of both Lydia's and George's... However, also on the census are two kids with the surname white... Now when I trace these kids back, it looks as if they're from Lydia's previous marriage... However, the kids were born both on the same years as two other kids which Ithink Lydia and George had....

....This has me really confused... Can anyone lend a hand?

The children in question are
Herbert White born 1855
Luther White botn 1857
Hannah White born 1859
Henry White born 1861

these clash with the Cheeseman children

George
Martha
Mary
Daniel
(in that order)...
...anyone any ideas?

Thank you

Without finding their birth certs its a bit if a puzzle, and even certs don't always tell the truth !

noone turns up in the 1861 census either!it would help if i could find them..

1861 England Census
about Amelia Cheesman
Name: Amelia Cheesman
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Wilsden, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Wilsden
Ecclesiastical parish: Wilsden
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Bradford
Sub registration district: Wilsden
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 99
Household Members: Name Age
Amelia Cheesman 35
Sarah Ann Cheesman 13
Thomas Cheesman 11
David Cheesman 10
William Cheesman 8
George Cheesman 6
Martha Cheesman 4
Mary Cheesman 2
Daniel Cheesman 1 Mo

Deaths Sep 1861
Cheeseman Amelia Bradford 9b 95

Marriages Jun 1865
Cheeseman George Bradford 9b
White Lydia Bradford Y 9b 42


What makes you think the White's are George's?

1861 England Census
about Lydia White
Name: Lydia White
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Wilsden, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Wilsden
Ecclesiastical parish: Wilsden
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Bradford
Sub registration district: Wilsden
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 120
Household Members: Name Age
John White 30
Lydia White 29
Herbert White 6
Luther White 4
Hannah White 2
Henry Kirk White 3 Mo

1861 England Census
Name: Lydia White
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Wilsden, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Wilsden
Ecclesiastical parish: Wilsden
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View Image
Registration district: Bradford
Sub registration district: Wilsden
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 120
Household Members:
Name Age
John White 30
Lydia White 29
Herbert White 6
Luther White 4
Hannah White 2
Henry Kirk White 3 Mo

Ahhh I understand now.... So Daniel and those before 1861 aren;t Lydia's children, they are Amelia's....

Brilliant.

Thank you everyone!!x

Hi James,
Just as foot note to the above. I believe George is found here as a lodger in the 1861 census.

Name: George Cheesman
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Bingley, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Clayton
Ecclesiastical parish: Queenshead
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Bradford
Sub registration district: Thornton
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 112
Household Members: Name Age
John MacKarall 40
Harriet MacKarall 53
James Booth 26
James Jowett 19
George Cheesman 34

Note in the the 1851 census he's living next door to Thomas & Sarah Cheesman. These appear to be his parents in the 1841 census.

Name: George Cheesman
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Almondbury
Hundred: Agbrigg (Upper Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub registration district: Holmfirth
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Cheesman 60
Sarah Cheesman 50
George Cheesman 14
Joseph Lodge 60
John Ross 50
Jonathan Shaw 30

Regards,
Steve.