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Geoffrey

Geoffrey Report 28 Oct 2009 16:55

Trying to find the birth date for Tabitha. Have her surname as Elbin when living with Wliiam Fish in 1881 census, but on a marriage to William in 1887 her name shown as Rolfe a widow, and her Fathers name as James Elvin. Tabitha was born in Hempnall Norfolk. Dates I have vary from 1847 to 1852 (she died in 1910 given age of 60). Seem to be going around in circles, any suggestions please.
Geoff

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 28 Oct 2009 16:58

hi is this her in 1901
1901 census

Address 25 Abbotsford Av
Civil Parish Tottenham
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish St Anns
Parliamentary Borough or Division Tottenham
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Tottenham
Administrative County Middlesex
Householder 1
Name Frederick Fish
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 21
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Clerk To Poultry Salesman
Employment Status
Where Born Islington London
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name James Fish
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 15
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Fishmongers Assistant
Employment Status
Where Born St Pancras London
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Jessie Fish
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 17
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Tottenham Middlx
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name Tabitha Fish
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 50
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Hempnell Norfolk
Language
Infirmity
Householder 5
Name William Fish
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 45
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Clerk & Poultry Salesman
Employment Status
Where Born Islington London
Language
Infirmity

Potty

Potty Report 28 Oct 2009 17:00

Her birth?

Name: Tabitha Elvin
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Depwade
County: Norfolk, Suffolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 235

Potty

Potty Report 28 Oct 2009 17:07

Her first marriage?

Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%)

********ELVIN Tabitha Rose Mildenhall 4a 1042
PALMER Charlotte Mildenhall 4a 1042
*******ROLPH Joseph Mildenhall 4a 1042

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Oct 2009 17:08

1871 but no idea if connected

Name: Tabitha Rose Rolph
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Alfred
Gender: Female
Where born: Hempnall, Norfolk, England
Civil parish: Lakenheath
Town: Lakenheath
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Mildenhall
Sub-registration district: Lakenheath
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 149
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Rolph 24 Lakenheath, carpenter
Tabitha Rose Rolph 24

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Oct 2009 17:32

Strange but there is a tree on Ancestry (Rolph) who show her as marrying Alfred Joseph Rolph. No parents are shown for her but they seem to think she died about 1875


1881 this is why they think she died
Name: Alfred Rolph
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Son in Law
Spouse's Name: Sarah Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Lakenheath, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Lakenheath
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address: Mill Road
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Carpenter

Registration district: Mildenhall
Sub-registration district: Lakenheath
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Rutterford 38
James Rutterford 20
Alfred Rolph 34
Sarah Ann Rolph 28
Frederick Rutterford 11
Ada Rutterford 8
Albert Rolph 3
Archible Rolph 2
Eliza Rolph




Marriages Dec 1878 (>99%)
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MACDONNELL Catherine Islington 1b 371
McDONNELL Catherine Islington 1b 371
Rolph Alfred Joseph Islington 1b 371
Rutterford Sarah Ann Islington 1b 371
Shaw James Islington 1b 371




Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

ELVIN Tabitha Rose Mildenhall 4a 1042
PALMER Charlotte Mildenhall 4a 1042
ROLPH Joseph Mildenhall 4a 1042


Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

ROLPH Alfred Joseph Mildenhall 4a 1012

This is wrong as should read 4a 1042


Sent a correction to FreeBMD which could take 2 months to appear

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 28 Oct 2009 17:51

Name: Tabitha Rose Elvin
Marriage: Dec 1870 - Mildenhall, Suffolk

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Oct 2009 18:03

1881 just for info

Name: Mary Ebin
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Sister in Law
Gender: Female
Where born: Clacton On Sea, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 245 Gt Coll St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Nursemaid

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Kentish Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Fish 26
Tabitha Fish 29
William A. Fish 2
Frederick C. Fish 1
Mary Ebin 13
Rachael Bix 20



Not really found a good match for Mary in 1871 - certainly not with a father of James

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 28 Oct 2009 18:13

hi possible
1891 census

Name Tabitha Fish
Age 40
Estimated Year of Birth 1851
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation ?
Address 17 West Green Road
District Tottenham, Edmonton
Parish
Administrative County Middlesex
Birth Place Hawknall
Birth County Norfolk
in house
william hed 35 born islington
tabitha wife 40
william a 12
frederick c 11
james r 5
jessie 7
mary a ? servant 29