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Need help for Scottish records

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Erica

Erica Report 3 Feb 2010 20:03

I am trying to find information about Adam Ritchie born 28th January 1835 Barony, Glasgow, Scotland. Think his father was Thomas Ritchie, Glasgow. m. Ann Gunion 15/02/1824. children James Ritchie 12/10/1827 Elizabeth Wingate Ritchie 18/01/1829 and Thomas Wingate Ritchie 13/02/1834. but no Adam! We know Adams date of birth from the family bible but thats where it starts with his marriage and children, also know he was with the Black Watch and sailed to South Africa with two brothers also in the Black Watch and a sister.
Thanks
Erica

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 3 Feb 2010 20:11

1851 Scotland Census about Adam Ritchie
Name: Adam Ritchie
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Parish Number: 644/1
Civil parish: Glasgow College
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 14 Havannah St
Occupation: Cotton Mill Worker
ED: 6
Page: 5 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 15
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1851_159
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Ritchie 56 All born Ireland
Ann Ritchie 56
Ann Ritchie 27
Adam Ritchie 17
Matilda Ritchie 13
Thomas Ritchie 8
Jane McLean 71
Jane Asbourgh 25
Agnes Boyle 1 b scotland

Helen

Helen Report 3 Feb 2010 22:02

Father: Thomas Ritchie
Mother: Ann Gunion

Children:

1. THOMAS WINGATE RITCHIE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 13 FEB 1834 Barony, Lanark, Scotland
2. JAMES RITCHIE RITCHIE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 12 OCT 1827 Barony, Lanark, Scotland
3. ANN GUNION RITCHIE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 11 MAR 1845 Barony, Lanark, Scotland
4. ROBERT FORRESTER RITCHIE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 25 JUL 1836 Barony, Lanark, Scotland
5. JANE RITCHIE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 29 MAY 1826 Barony, Lanark, Scotland
6. ELIZABETH WINGATE RITCHIE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 18 JAN 1829 Barony, Lanark, Scotland
7. JOHN GUNION RITCHIE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 03 JUL 1831 Barony, Lanark, Scotland
8. WILLIAM GUNION RITCHIE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 25 JUL 1836 Barony, Lanark, Scotland

Odd that Adam's birth is not recorded but this is not uncommon. I have a whole family of children recorded to my 3xGrandparents but one of their children is missing from the IGI.

However, I have actually seen the record of his christening in the Old Parish Records. Don't know why Familysearch chose to leave him off.

Erica

Erica Report 3 Feb 2010 22:35

Thank you for all that information.......
Helen thats what has me so confused why is he not shown, only record we have of him is on the ship with his brothers and sister and his birthdate and place in the family bible.

Helen

Helen Report 3 Feb 2010 23:13

Noticed on the 1851 census it states all the family were born in Ireland.

The IGI however says the children were born in Glasgow and this is the correct information as the records are extracted from the Parish records.

I think what may have happened is ... the record for Adam may be illegible and difficult to read ... and so has been left off the IGI.

I'm sure if you were to see the original record for the date mentioned, you could probably make out various known details ... because you would have an idea what to look for.

Helen

Helen Report 3 Feb 2010 23:23

You may have this:


1861 Scotland Census
about Thomas Ritchel
Name: Thomas Ritchel
[Thomas Ritchie]
Age: 68
Estimated birth year: abt 1793
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Anne
Gender: Male
Where born: Cop Antem, Ireland
Registration Number: 644/2
Registration district: High Church
Civil parish: Glasgow Inner High
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 108 Drygate St
Occupation: Murlin Weaver
ED: 8
Household schedule number: 54
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1861_98
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Ritchel 68
Anne Ritchel 68
Thomas Ritchel 19
Anne Ritchel 32
John Burns 50

Again, it says all the family were born in County Antrim, Ireland, Don't know why Thomas would give this information for his children's births when it's been proved they were born in Glasgow.