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Oh no, Leeann, now you've lost your name!

I know of only one other person this has happened to in this round of "fixes", Cynthia, and she has got nowhere with the problem so far.

If you want to play with this, go to the thread called something like "please do not post the same person/family more than once", a huge long thread, and say hello -- be sure to sign your post ... or not, if you just want to confuse the * out of everyone!

Oh, and send in another complaint ...

Hi Janey

Yes private conversation. Off to National Archives again tomorrow try get more info on where and when this Edward Kite joined up, determined to find out if the family story is true or embelleshed somewhat. probably only 3 -4 generations to go :-). Been stuck on him for about 7 years as hadn't the time to travel to Shropshire to get to the archives.

I've put my complaint into them, once again thanks for letting me know.

Kind Regards

Leeann

I'm here! We're having a private conversation.

I'd wait a bit. Do send your complaint to the site management, though, to increase the chances of something being done about it.

It's Friday afternoon and I doubt my message will even be read before Monday, for instance.

Hi Janey

Thanks for letting me know, I thought it was a bit suspisious it wasn't working as I got a blank page too initally when I posted it. It initally put it in twice yesterday so I had to go back and delete one of the threads. Do you think it may be wise in a couple of days to just delete all the threads and start a new one, just inputting all the information from the previous threads? (by copying and pasting them) or do you think it might get sorted out.

Kind Regards

Leeann

FYI, this is the message I have sent to [email protected] and [email protected]. You may want to send your own.

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Can you see this thread?

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/keight/kite/kyte/kight/keyte/thread/1236444

I sure can't. I get a blank page. So does anyone else I've asked. And yet somehow, people seem to be posting in it.

That's how the thread URL appears in the list in both "My thread participation" and the main TTF board list.

The idea of having the surname board in the url ... I guess it works most places, but it sure seems to throw a wrench into the works here.

Oh look. This URL works:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/thread/1236444

So if I just keep making up my own URLs for threads, I guess I'll do okay.

(See previous message about navigating using page numbers within threads after posting in the thread, and the non-functional "jump" URL.)

This isn't going to help here, but I think everybody else is having the same problem with your thread as I am, which somehow you're not affected by.

Thread URLs now include the surname board they were posted on. So yours looks like this, because of what you initially put in the surname line:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/keight/kite/kyte/kight/keyte/thread/1236444

All that gets me is a blank page. I asked a couple of other people to try, and they got the same thing.

I decided to experiment, and used this URL:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/thread/1236444

It worked. But only someone reading this post will know that. ;)

I've reported this particular problem (which is a result of a whole lot of obviously untested changes made to the site yesterday, half of which have broken it rather than fixed anything ... that didn't need fixing to start with).

I suggest you wait a few days and see whether the people running this place get their act together. Send me a PM (click on my name) early next week and I'll give the links another try and let you know.

Or if anyone can tell me where the regiment was between 22nd Nov - 4 Dec 1804, and also between April-June 1807 as that is when my ancestors Edward Kite jnr and Richard Kite respectively were born.

Dear All

Is there anyone out there that knows anything about the 32nd of Foot through the Napoleonic wars (primarly the penisular wars)

I found my Keight/Kite/Kyte ancestors through the local census listings at Shrewsbury (Ref P172/V/2/3) which stated that Edward Kite & Sarah Kites eldest son was put into the Royal Military Asylum in Chelsea 20th Jun 1814. and apprenticed back out to his mother 4th Aug 1818.

I have since been to the National Archives and found the original admissions/discharge registers (WO143/17 & WO143/20) which tell me his father also Edward Kyte/Kite was a private in the 32nd of Foot.

Which I then have looked for muster quartely pay registers which told me that Edward Kite snr died around Jul 1812 of his wounds, I've therefore looked up to see what that regiment was involved in, and found it was involved in the battle of Salamanca.

So my question to any military historians/enthusiasts is does anyone know what part of England they went from when going to Spain/Portugal, would they have gone from Plymouth (because of their association with Cornwall), or would they have gone from Kent, or if anyone knows if Shropshire had any links to the regiment? or if anyone knows of any more records that could give me more information.

I have yet to return to the National Archives to look that previous years pay records as I ran out of time (so was only able to look through the 1st Batt's records from 1811-1812 WO12/4737 & 4738) but I believe he may have come from the 2nd battalion into the 1st battalion in around end of 1811, as on one of the records it states "co, from 2 batt"

Any suggestions anyone could give would be greatfully received.

Kind Regards

Leeann

Janey,

I'm so sorry I sent you off on a wild chase, I should have given more information or used the last thread, apologies. I don't really use this very often so wasn't really aware of the use the last thread rule.

Yes I have come up with exactly the same as you, I have all the relevant certificates and parish records for the shrewsbury area, I just think that Thanet Kent is a long way from Shropshire. I even went as far as looking for deaths of a Sarah Kite and found one in 1848 in Shropshire, so I ordered it and the informant was Richard Kite of Bayston Hill and she was a widow to one Edward Kite. and as I know from other parish records of Richard's childrens births that he was living in Bayston hill at the time, so I'm pretty confident that Sarah and Edward were his parents, I just can't figure out why they would travel from Kent to Shropshire.

Once again apologies for sending you on a trip for information when it was already there.

Kind Regards

Leeann

Of course, now I do a boards search and find your existing thread with info in it that would certainly have helped here.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=472714

Maybe you'd delete that one now, as it's now a duplicate, and include any further info in this one.

... Actually, you posted it five separate times on the same date in 2006 ...

A possibility to look at more, maybe, given that your Richard's eldest son was Edward:

RICHARD KITE
Birth:
Christening: 26 JUL 1807 Saint Laurence (Thanet), Kent, England
Father: EDWARD KITE
Mother: SARAH
Batch Number: 8501834
>> record submitted by a Mormon so a real parish record would have to be found for verification anyway


Verification from pilot.familysearch:

Name: Richard Kite
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 26 Jul 1807
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Lawrence, Thanet, Kent, England
Father's Name: Edward Kite
Mother's Name: Sarah
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


i.e. verification of that baptism, not of the identity.


and for info

Name: Richard Kyte
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 27 May 1839
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT JULIAN, SHREWSBURY, SHROPSHIRE, ENGLAND
Birth Date: 25 May 1839
Father's Name: Richard Kyte
Mother's Name: Mary
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Edward Kyte
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 29 Mar 1836
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT JULIAN, SHREWSBURY, SHROPSHIRE, ENGLAND
Birth Date: 28 Mar 1836
Father's Name: Richard Kyte
Mother's Name: Mary
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Wife Mary is also shown in 1851 as born in St Julian. (Richard is shown as born in Longnor; I wonder whether Sarah is his mother.)

RICHD. KITE
Spouse: MARY HARTSHORN
Marriage: 13 MAR 1832 Saint Julian, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Batch: M037432


Just for possible future ref, this marriage is in the same batch:

JOB KYTE
Spouse: SARAH WILCOCKS
Marriage: 01 JUN 1732 Saint Julian, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Batch No.: M037432


I suspect the name in the 1841 census is a simple mistake, possibly from copying abbreviations.

Right, 1851 in Condover

Richard Kite 43
Mary Kite 43
Richard Kite 12 - born in St Julians
Barnabas Kite 7

1841 in St Julian:

Edwd Kite 30
Mary Kite 30
Edward Kite 5
Richard Kite 2


Ages were rounded down in 1841 to the nearest multiple of five, so the age, 30, is correct.

And you post the actual 41-51-61 census details so anybody trying to help doesn't have to go hunting them up? For one thing, what is it that makes Richard in 51-61 = Edward in 41? I've tried for Edward Kyte in 1841 and don't know where he is to be found, as I can't.

If he was born at sea that early I doubt you will find any record -- of course, there was no birth registration then anyway. (And the 1841 doesn't give place of birth.) He might well have been baptised though -- have you tried familysearch?

Condover and Longnor - in Shropshire, presumably? Not everyone here is expert at local geography in England. ;)


closest info I find in 1841 is:

Name: Sarah Kyte
Age: 65
Estimated birth year: abt 1776
Where born: Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Longnor
Hundred: Condover (Condover Division)
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Registration district: Church Stretton

I'm posting this request on here in the hope someone might be able to help me. A family story has been passed down generations about my maternal grandfathers lineage and that one of my ancestors came over with Willam of Orange in the 1680's, as with most family stories they get disjointed, but in my experience there always seems to be some truth in them.

I've got as far back as 1808 with my ancestor a Richard Keight/Kite, but my census data lists him in 1841 as being Edward Kyte born Condover, 1851 Richard Kite born Longnor and 1861 what looks like Longnor but with the words "Born at Sea" written over the top.

Can anyone help me in breaking down this brick wall. I've been up to Shropshire archives a couple of times and to the National Archives but can't seem to find anything, does anyone have any suggestions as I'm 120 years out in getting back to William of Orange era so perhaps another 4/5 generations.

I've got his death certificate from 1868 which had Kite as surname crossed out with Keight in its place and from that and the census data dates which can make his age differ somewhat in the 1841 census, but I believe he was born at the beginning of 1808.

Does anyone have any suggestions about aliens / settlement certificates / ships lists / newspapers etc.

I've been stuck on this for about 3 years now. I've this week since Ancestry put up the National Probate Calendars found his will so I'm hoping it might have some clues in there, but if anyone has any suggestions, they would be very much greatfully received.

Kind Regards Leeann