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The worst of both worlds, eh.

Then there was the kefruffle in the capital a few years back about the effort to change the name of Pretoria Street/Bridge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretoria_Bridge

"The bridge shares its name with Pretoria Avenue, of which it is a continuation. Pretoria Avenue, formerly Jane Street, was renamed in 1902 to commemorate the British victory in the Second Boer War and those Canadians that had served. The name comes from the captured Boer capital, Pretoria. The name later become controversial as most Canadians associated it with the apartheid regime in South Africa. In the late 1980s a movement was launched to rename the bridge after Nelson Mandela. This was opposed by others who felt it was an important monument to Canadians who had fought in South Africa. City council refused to get involved and the proposal eventually died."

Personally, I'm just not generally thrilled about renaming things for reasons of the moment. (Unless maybe it's for good reason. ;) We tried to name our new university student centre for the father of the professor whose firing had prompted the student strike action then underway ...)

And I don't think "most" Canadians associated the name with anything, actually. And anybody who did associate it with apartheid didn't know any history.

Now if it had actually been called Botha Bridge ...

Janey - yeah, well I blame it all on the Vancouver city fathers - there's streets named Blenheim, Trafalgar, Waterloo, Alma, Sevastapol, but then I think they'd named all the streets, and there was nothing left over for the Boer war (or WW1). It's only in the 1940s, when they developed some old industrial land on the edge of the city (right next to Boundary) do we get Mons & Vimy and a mess of WW2 names.

You've forgotten the Relief of Mafeking?? Tsk!

If he was regular army he wouldn't show in Kevin Asplin's IY lists.

But duh, there I go forgetting again.

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/chelsea-pensioners-service-records-collection-search-start.action

I don't see a good match, but there are some "?" years of birth.

jax - thanks very much for your help. I'm encouraged to see William's an army pensioner - certainly looks like my guy.

JC - I'd forgotten abt the Boer War - I'll have to check that out.

Terrific, jax, I think mgnv will be very pleased!

1911 census - household transcription
Person: STOREY, Michael
Address: Kearstwick Kirkby Lonsdale


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STOREY, Michael Head Married M 30 1881 Horseman On Farm Ambleside Westmorland VIEW
STOREY, Mary Agnes Wife Married
6 years F 25 1886 Kirkby Lonsdale West VIEW
STOREY, James Arthur Son M 14 1897 Kirkby Lonsdale West VIEW
STOREY, Margaret Agnes Daughter F 3 1908 Kirkby Lonsdale West VIEW

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1911 census - household transcription
Person: STOREY, William
Address: 26 Limethwaite Road Heathwaite Windermere



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RAWS, Framnk Head Married M 34 1877 Journeyman Tailor West Langdale VIEW
RAWS, Alice Wife Married
8 years F 28 1883 Cheshire Altrind VIEW
RAWS, Edith Daughter F 7 1904 West Ambleside VIEW
RAWS, Edna Daughter F 5 1906 West Ambleside VIEW
STOREY, William Boarder Single M 42 1869 Army Pensioner Rnk Manager West Ambleside VIEW

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1911 census - household transcription
Person: STOREY, John
Address: 82 Bosworth St Leicester


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HART, Harriet Head Widow F 64 1847 London Buckby Northants VIEW
HART, John Son Single M 37 1874 Shoe Pressman Northampton VIEW
HART, Florence Daughter Single F 29 1882 Emboerey Of Caps Leicester VIEW
STOREY, K Elizabeth Daughter Married
11 years F 32 1879 Leicester VIEW
STOREY, John Son In Law Married M 32 1879 Painter Ambleside VIEW
STOREY, John Grandson M 5 1906 School Leicester VIEW
WATTS, John Boarder Widower M 72 1839 Gardener Lawford Warwickshire VIEW

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1911 census - household transcription
Person: HARPER, Grace Creighton
Address: 14 Thomson ST


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HARPER, Henry Head Married M 33 1878 Stationary Engineman Cumberland Kirklinton VIEW
HARPER, Grace Creighton Wife Married
8 years F 28 1883 Westmoreland Ambleside VIEW
HARPER, Margaret Daughter F 7 1904 School Cumberland Carlisle VIEW
HARPER, Arnold Thompson Son M 5 1906 School Cumberland Carlisle VIEW
HARPER, Jane Daughter F 3 1908 Cumberland Carlisle VIEW
HARPER, George Edward Son M 0 (10 MONTH) 1911 Cumberland Carlisle VIEW

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1911 census - household transcription
Person: STOREY, James Edmund
Address: 3 Yard 18 Kirkland Kendal


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STOREY, James Edmund Head Married M 26 1885 Plumber Ambleside Westmorland VIEW
STOREY, Margaret Elizabeth Wife Married
3 years F 24 1887 Kendal Westmorland VIEW
STOREY, Gladys Daughter F 1 1910 Kendal Westmorland VIEW

1911 census - household transcription
Person: GILL, Isabel
Address: 6 Poorhouse Lane Kirkland Kendal


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GILL, Thomas Henry Head Married M 38 1873 Boot Finisher Staffordshire Samworth VIEW
GILL, Isabel Wife Married
16 years F 36 1875 Westmorland Ambleside VIEW
GILL, Margaret Ellen Daughter Single F 15 1896 Boot Fitter Westmorland Kendal VIEW
GILL, Ida Isabel Daughter F 14 1897 Boot Fitter Westmorland Kendal VIEW
GILL, Jack Son M 11 1900 School Confectioner Errand Boy Westmorland Kendal VIEW
GILL, William Henry Son M 9 1902 Westmorland Kendal VIEW
GILL, Annie Daughter F 6 1905 Westmorland Kendal VIEW
GILL, Roy Son M 4 1907 Westmorland Kendal VIEW
GILL, Frederick Bertram Son M 3 1908 Westmorland Kendal VIEW

mgnv, I'll fetch the 1911 pros for you.

What you want is the full 1911 for

pob=Ambleside
HOUSEHOLD STOREY WILLIAM M 1869 42 Kendal Westmorland
HOUSEHOLD GILL ISABEL F 1875 36 Kendal Westmorland
HOUSEHOLD STOREY JOHN M 1879 32 Leicester Leicestershire
HOUSEHOLD STOREY MICHAEL M 1881 30 Kendal Westmorland
HOUSEHOLD HARPER GRACE CREIGHTON F 1883 28 Carlisle Cumberland
HOUSEHOLD STOREY JAMES EDMUND M 1885 26 Kendal Westmorland

as I understand it, for anybody who can help.

mgnv, there's always the Anglo-Boer War, for 1901:

http://www.britishmedals.us/files/iys.htm

Storey, William 27104, Trooper 42nd Coy., 12th Bn. I.Y.

for example.

... although 42nd Coy., 12th Bn. seems to be Hertfordshire.

Thanks Andy, but I really need the full details. I got as far as free look ups for:

John [rd407 sd3 ed55 sn189]
Grace [rd574 sd2 ed6 sn207]
James [rd581 sd2 ed8 sn48]
William [rd581 sd1 ed4 sn129]

but the free details weren't sufficient.

James 1911 index only

Schedule type Last names First names Sex Birth year Age in 1911 District / other County / other Transcript Original page
HOUSEHOLD STOREY GLADYS F 1910 1 Kendal Westmorland
HOUSEHOLD STOREY MARGARET ELIZABETH F 1887 24 Kendal Westmorland
HOUSEHOLD STOREY JAMES EDMUND M 1885 26 Kendal Westmorland

Andy

Thanks Maddie, but not my guy - the CWGC site adds

Age: 19
Additional information: Son of Nathan and Mary Elizabeth Storey, of Dryfe Bridge, Lockerbie, Dumfriesshire.

Andy - thanks. Don't know how I missed that marr.

I think your William 1901 is not my guy, but this one:

1881 Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Richard STOREY Head M Male 57 Troutbeck, Westmorland, England (...) Waller (Stone)
Ann STOREY Wife M Female 50 Sedbergh, York, England
Braithwaite STOREY Son U Male 22 Troutbeck, Westmorland, England General Labourer
Richard STOREY Son U Male 21 Staveley, Westmorland, England Waller (Stone)
Joseph STOREY Son Male 15 Staveley, Westmorland, England Labourer Bobbin Mill
William STOREY Son Male 11 Staveley, Westmorland, England Scholar
Jane STOREY Daur Female 9 Staveley, Westmorland, England Scholar
Ellenor STOREY Daur Female 7 Staveley, Westmorland, England Scholar
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Source Information:
Dwelling Square
Census Place Over Staveley, Westmorland, England
Family History Library Film 1342256
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5207 / 88
Page Number 27

Thanks for looking

probably not your man but just in caseSoldiers Died in the Great War 1914-1919 - soldier details
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Name: William James STOREY
Memorial Scroll
Purchase scroll

Rank: PRIVATE
Initials: W J
Birthplace: Ambleside, Westmorland
Residence:
Enlisted: Millom, Cumberland
Regiment, Corps etc.: Lancashire Fusiliers
Battalion etc.: 1/7th Battalion.
Number: 63705
Date died: 26 September 1918
How died: Killed in action
Theatre of war: France & Flanders
Supplementary Notes: FORMERLY 48882, R. LANCASTER REGT.

William 1901?

1901 England Census
about William Storey Name: William Storey
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Staveley, Westmorland, England

Civil parish: Hugill
Ecclesiastical parish: Staveley St James
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Kendal
Sub-registration district: Ambleside
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 74
Piece: 4908
Folio: 17
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
John Bowness 41
S A Bowness 38
Annie Bowness 15
Walter Bowness 11
Braithwaite Storey 42
Joseph Storey 35
William Storey 31



Andy

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%)
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HARPER Henry Wigton 10b 951
STOREY Grace Creighton Wigton 10b 951


1911 census index only

Schedule type Last names First names Sex Birth year Age in 1911 District / other County / other Transcript Original page
HOUSEHOLD HARPER ARNOLD THOMPSON M 1906 5 Carlisle Cumberland
HOUSEHOLD HARPER GEORGE EDWARD M 1910 10 MONTH Carlisle Cumberland
HOUSEHOLD HARPER HENRY M 1878 33 Carlisle Cumberland
HOUSEHOLD HARPER JANE F 1908 3 Carlisle Cumberland
HOUSEHOLD HARPER MARGARET F 1904 7 Carlisle Cumberland
HOUSEHOLD HARPER GRACE CREIGHTON F 1883 28 Carlisle Cumberland


Possible further births after census(can't tell which are for Grace/Henry)

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
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Harper Henry Storey Carlisle 10b 1166

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Births Dec 1915 (>99%)
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HARPER Thomas R STOREY Carlisle 10b 960

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Births Dec 1917 (>99%)
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Harper Isabel Storey Carlisle 10b 868

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Births Sep 1918 (>99%)
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Harper Ellen L Storey Kensington 1a 161

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Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
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Harper William Storey Carlisle 10b 1275



Andy

John Storey was a mystery witness at my g gran (Mary Ann Hesmondhalgh)'s 1873 marriage. John was born in Skelwith Bridge, just west of Ambleside. He gives Skelwithbridge/Skelwith as his pob in 1851/61/71 I now realize he was her bro-in-law, so now I'ld like some help on my grandad's cousins, please.


1881 Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John STOREY Head M Male 35 Ambleside, Westmorland, England General Labourer
Margaret STOREY Wife M Female 34 Ambleside, Westmorland, England
William STOREY Son Male 11 Ambleside, Westmorland, England Scholar
Isabella STOREY Daur Female 6 Ambleside, Westmorland, England Scholar
John STOREY Son Male 3 Ambleside, Westmorland, England
Michael STOREY Son Male 7 m Ambleside, Westmorland, England
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Source Information:
Dwelling Chapel Cottage
Census Place Ambleside, Westmorland, England
Family History Library Film 1342255
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5206 / 13
Page Number 19


There were two more births in Ambleside before Margaret died.

Births Jun 1883
STOREY Grace [GC]reighton Kendal 10b 705

Births Sep 1884
Storey James Edmund Kendal 10b 719

Deaths Jun 1885
STOREY Margaret Elizabeth 39 Kendal 10b 471

I have found some marriages:

Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%)
Gill Thomas Henry Kendal 10b 1061
Storey Isabel Kendal 10b 1061

Marriages Sep 1900
Carter Lydia Leicester 7a 508
**Hart Kate Elizabeth Leicester 7a 508
Sewell George William Leicester 7a 508
**Storey John Leicester 7a 508

Marriages Mar 1905
Bradley Mary Agnes Kendal 10b 1069
STOREY Michael Kendal 10b 1069

Marriages Dec 1907
BRIER Harriet Kendal 10b 1392
CLARK Jonas Kendal 10b 1392
**EARL Margaret Elizabeth Kendal 10b 1392
**STOREY James Edmund Kendal 10b 1392


I've not found the death of John, but by 1891 the family are scattered.
William is a private in Chatham barracks, but the other 5 are in Kendal RD. I've not found William in 1901, but the other 5 kids are again in Kendal RD, except Grace is in Wigton up near Carlisle.


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I'ld like to see their details in 1911 (with ref info + addresses) - I think this is who I want:

pob=Ambleside
HOUSEHOLD STOREY WILLIAM M 1869 42 Kendal Westmorland
HOUSEHOLD GILL ISABEL F 1875 36 Kendal Westmorland
HOUSEHOLD STOREY JOHN M 1879 32 Leicester Leicestershire
HOUSEHOLD STOREY MICHAEL M 1881 30 Kendal Westmorland
HOUSEHOLD HARPER GRACE CREIGHTON F 1883 28 Carlisle Cumberland
HOUSEHOLD STOREY JAMES EDMUND M 1885 26 Kendal Westmorland


If anyone can find John's death, or William in 1901, or Grace's marr, that also would be appreciated.