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Trying to find my ggg grandfather on the census please (i dont have full access at the moment!)
Frederick Henry Whiteman (born 1832, Holborn), father was George Whiteman (1794, Holborn) and mother was Jane (circa 1800). I know he had at least 2 sisters; Eliza (1821) and Jane Mary Ann (1823) and 1 brother; John (unknown). but i believe there were more and i don't know their names.
i've been told that on the 1861 census they are living in Islington with their father, but 10 years later have moved to East London and their younger brethers and sisters are in the workhouse, no idea which one!
I've also been told that their father, George, then starts a second family, and when John got married he showed his father as "deceased" which he was not. So some kind of family rift!
Any help would be much appreciated!
Thanks
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1841:
Name: Fredrick Whiteman
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: 1832
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: View Image
Registration district: St Pancras
Sub registration district: Grays Inn Lane
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Gean Whiteman 47
Jane Whiteman 44
Eliza Whiteman 19
Jane Whiteman 18
Fredrick Whiteman 9
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I can't find them in 1851 at the moment but in 1861, George is a lodger with another family, not living in Islington with his children:
Name: Geo Whiteman
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras
Civil Parish: St Luke
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Registration district: St Luke
Sub registration district: Old Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 213
Household Members: Name Age
Amelia Divon 46
George Divon 8
William Divon 50
William Divon 21
Geo Whiteman 66
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Could Fred have married? 1861:
Name: Frederick Henry Whiteman
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Anne
Gender: Male
Where born: Clerkenwell
Civil Parish: St Luke Old Street
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Registration district: St Luke
Sub registration district: City Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Dorner 21
Marcus Haller 25
Leopold Wenncoke 26
Anne Whiteman 27
Clara Ann Whiteman 5
Frederick Henry Whiteman 29
Frederick Henry Whiteman 9
John Whiteman 7
Robert Whiteman
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Have you seen these for possible children oin the IGI?
GEORGE WHITEMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 27 FEB 1831 Spitalfields Christ Church, Stepney, London, England
WILLIAM WHITEMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 17 FEB 1833 Spitalfields Christ Church, Stepney, London, England
GEORGE HENRY GALLAND WHITMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 25 DEC 1836
Christening: 02 APR 1837 Saint John The Baptist, Shoreditch, London, England
JOSEPH WHITEMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 09 SEP 1838 Spitalfields Christ Church, Stepney, London, England
MARY ANN JANE WHITEMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 15 SEP 1820
Christening: 17 JUN 1821 Saint Andrew, Holborn, London, England
ELIZA WHITEMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 09 DEC 1821
Christening: 09 JUN 1822 Saint Andrew, Holborn, London, England
FREDERICK HENRY WHITEMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 13 JAN 1832
Christening: 12 FEB 1832 Saint Andrew, Holborn, London, England
JANE MARY ANN WHITEMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 31 MAY 1823
Christening: 25 DEC 1823 Saint Andrew, Holborn, London, England
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Here is Jane in 1861 with a couple of her sons:
Name: Joseph Whiteman
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Spitalfields, London, England
Civil Parish: Uffington
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Registration district: Faringdon
Sub registration district: Buckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 132
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Whiteman 61
Joseph Whiteman 22
William Whiteman 28
Jane is recorded as a widow, as is George on the 1861 as well...
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a *possible* for 1851? Not sure about the two daughters though so maybe not the right family...
Name: William Whiteman
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Compton Beauchamp
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image
Registration district: Faringdon
Sub registration district: Shrivenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
George Whiteman 48
Jane Whiteman 51
Jane Whiteman 10
Sarah Whiteman 5
William Whiteman 18
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my apologies for i have crossed my wires!
i am actually looking for Frederick Henry born 1832 in Holborn, Clerkenwell, London on the 1871 and 1881. Especially interested in his wife and children's names!
also looking for his children, John (1853, london), Clara Ann (1856 london) and Robert (1860 london)
Have been told they might appear in a Workhouse census return in 1871, unknown for 1881!
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Louisa
I see that in 2008 you were looking for Frederick Henry (b 1832) on the census. I can help if you haven't found him yet, just let me know.
I'm descended from his son John
Rob
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Hello Robert, it is doubtful whether Louisa will see your message as it has been 2 years since she last posted. You can try clicking on her name and sending your message that way. If she still has the same email address, she will be notified. Cx
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