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Henry Townsend-1889

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Caroline

Caroline Report 20 Oct 2011 11:35

Henry (my grandfather)b Cwmbran Newport 1889.Found Xavarian boarding
school E.Sussex 1901 with Guardian listed as Mary Brice Miller.What happened to Henrys father also a Henry b 1857 Bridgewater- can find no trace.
Help please Carol

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 20 Oct 2011 11:37

Which is the last census you have found Henry 1857 on

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 20 Oct 2011 11:44

1881 England Census
about Henry Townsend
Name: Henry Townsend
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Soldier
Gender: Male
Where born: Bridgewater, Somerset, England

Civil parish: St Margaret
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: "Wellington Barracks" Coldstream Guards
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Private Coldstream Guards

Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: St Margaret Westminster
ED, institution, or vessel: Wellington Barracks Old Wing
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 121
Folio: 80
Page Number: 3

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 20 Oct 2011 11:47

Yes found that one but not sure if poster has more info

Name of wife etc would be useful

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 20 Oct 2011 11:52

Glitter I wonder if she has Henry's birth cert?? Young Henry I mean.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 20 Oct 2011 11:52

Obviously working from some document to know the name of father


1891??
Name: Henry Townsend
Age: 0
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Partner
Gender: Male
Where born: S Wales, Newport

Civil parish: St George Hanover Square
Ecclesiastical parish: Knightsbridge St Pauls
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: Belgrave
ED, institution, or vessel: St Georges Hospital
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 77
Folio: 80
Page Number: 18

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Oct 2011 12:00

??

1911 census - household transcription
Person: TOWNSEND, Henry
Address: 180 North End Road Fulham S W

MORIARTY, Edward Head Married
25 years M 59 1852 Beer Retailer London Hammersmith VIEW
MORIARTY, Ellen Wife Married
25 years F 56 1855 Assisting On The Business London Hammersmith VIEW
MORIARTY, Edward Son Single M 20 1891 Ironmonger London Fulham VIEW
MORIARTY, Annie Daughter Single F 13 1898 School London Fulham VIEW
TOWNSEND, Henry Servant Single M 21 1890 Barman Newport Monmouth VIEW
HOLLISTER, Percy Servant Single M 21 1890 Barman Hungerford Berks VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
316 Reference:
RG14PN316 RG78PN10 RD3 SD4 ED13 SN1

Registration District:
Fulham Sub District:
North East Fulham Enumeration District:
13 Parish:
Fulham

Address:
180 North End Road Fulham S W County:
London

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 20 Oct 2011 12:00

In that census that Glitterbaby has posted it lists his mother as a Charwoman. The other children that are patients have their father's occupations listed. Does that not look like he may have been illigitimate?


Or perhaps his father was deceased by the time the 1891 census was taken?


???

Births Sep 1889 Townsend Henry Newport, M. 11a 230

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 20 Oct 2011 12:18

Been looking at the earlier census

Several Henry Townsend born in Somerset but not yet found one that claims to have been born in Bridgewater or Bridgwater

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 20 Oct 2011 12:24

On that 1891 census Henry is a patient at St George hospital. His age is down as 1/2 to which I suppose he is 6 months old.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 20 Oct 2011 12:37

Rootgatherer has put his birth up.

I am having trouble with Ancestry today and am packing it in now!!!!!!

I can't get into the old search which I much prefer.

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 20 Oct 2011 12:44

We really need Carol to come back and tell us if she has young Henry's birth certificate otherwise it is just speculation as to who his parents were.

Caroline

Caroline Report 20 Oct 2011 21:04

Henry Townsend Jnr born 2O/06/1889 Railway Inn Oakfields Llantarnum onMother Mary Townsend formerly Nolan-father Henry Beer house keeper. sub district St Woollos Newport Mon. Carol

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 21 Oct 2011 09:20

???

Marriages Mar 1879
CRAWFORD Harry Chelsea 1a 441
Linehan Catherine Chelsea 1a 441
Lineman Catherine Chelsea 1a 441
Nolan Mary Chelsea 1a 441 <<<<<<<<<
TOWNSEND Henry Chelsea 1a 441 <<<<<<<<<<



Caroline - you need to remove that "Mark as Answered" tick if you still want to find Henry's death.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Oct 2011 09:36

Recieved this today from Carol by pm.

Hello Mel
Have traced Henry Snr to Army records 1880 end of his service
nothing after that.My grandfather Henry( his son) born 1889Newport Mon is recorded as having a Guardian Mary Brice Miller on his boarding school entrance records in 1901 census in Sussex .I obtained this info via an entry record from the Uni of Notre Dame
USA relating to Xavarian School in UK.
His Guardian appears to be a VAD helper medalists in WW1.
Of some means with property in France be-ing requisitioned for
WW1 nurses to take convalesence. In UK she lived in Queens Gate
London.Did Henry snr die in WW1 or was she related to to the
family? It is a real brick wall puzzle.
Regards Carol

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Oct 2011 09:49

This Henry Townsend that I put up earlier in the coldstream guards is unmarried?????? on the 1881 census.

Strange if thats their marriage in 1879.

1881 England Census
about Henry Townsend
Name: Henry Townsend
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Soldier
Gender: Male
Where born: Bridgewater, Somerset, England

Civil parish: St Margaret
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: "Wellington Barracks" Coldstream Guards
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Private Coldstream Guards

Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: St Margaret Westminster
ED, institution, or vessel: Wellington Barracks Old Wing
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 121
Folio: 80
Page Number: 3

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Oct 2011 09:59

1881 England Census
about Mary Townsend
Name: Mary Townsend
[Mary Nolan]
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Nilchel Nolan
Mother's Name: Mary Nolan
Gender: Female
Where born: Beauly Newynyd... ?, Wales

Civil parish: Kensington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 7 Bulmer Place

Condition as to marriage: Married *******
Education:


Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 25b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 30
Folio: 52
Page Number: 36
Household Members: Name Age
Nilchel Nolan 45
Mary Nolan 40
Wm. Nolan 16
Mary Townsend 22 Soldiers Wife*******
Jane Townsend 2
Infant Townsend 1 WEEK OLD*************
Cornelius Carson 14


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Oct 2011 10:10

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Mary Townsend
Name: Mary Townsend
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1879
Baptism Date: 2 Nov 1879
Father's Name: Henry Townsend Licienced Victuller
Mother's Name: Mary Townsend
Parish or Poor Law Union: Walham Green
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham

Address 'The Crown' North End, St John's

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Rose Anna Townsend
Name: Rose Anna Townsend
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date:8th Aug 1882 *****
Baptism Date: 5 Nov 1882
Father's Name: Henry Townsend LICIENCED VICTULAR
Mother's Name: Mary Townsend
Parish or Poor Law Union: Upper Tooting Holy Trinity
Borough: Wandsworth

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Frederick Townsend
Name: Frederick Townsend
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1885
Baptism Date: 6 Sep 1885
Father's Name: Henry Townsend L.Vic
Mother's Name: Mary Townsend
Parish or Poor Law Union: Upper Tooting Holy Trinity
Borough: Wandsworth

Address Main Rd.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 21 Oct 2011 10:45

1891 ???

Name: Fredrick Townsend
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henery Townsend
Mother's Name: Mary Townsend
Gender: Male
Where born: Tooting, London, England

Civil parish: Streatham
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Streatham
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Streatham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 454
Folio: 82
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Henery Townsend 57 Retired Publican, b. London
Mary Townsend 41
Jane Fraser 45
Georgena Townsend 3
Henrietta Townsend 1
Hannah Eokan 45
Nelly Islop 14
Fredrick Townsend 6



Deaths Dec 1882 TOWNSEND Rosanna 0 Wandsworth 1d 469


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Oct 2011 11:07

I don't think this is the right family as that Henery was born about 1834???????

I was going by the fact that Carol said Henry was a beer house keeper.