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Hi,

Im struggling with these two. They are my great great grandparents and the info I have on them is from chatting to my grandparents. John Francis Adams we know was born in 1879 but dont know a definate location. We know he was enlisted to the army in London on 19/09/1895. that is from his discharge papers which we still have, however finding him in the military archives brings up nothing. His papers say that his Army no. was 33164 and was with the Royal Army Service Corps when he was discharged on 14/08/1919.

I have found what im sure is their marriage record, Married in Jul-Aug-Sept 1910 in Upton on Seven, Worcestershire Vol 6C p519.

Elizabeth Spencer we know even less about. We know that she worked in Malvern Hospital when she met John but we dont know what as or any dates, or a date of birth or a birth place.

any help on either of them would be great, i know its not a great deal to go on :-(

You need to get the marriage certificate for information about their fathers, occupations and witnesses.
When did Elizabeth die, for approximate birth age?
Have you found them in 1911, and when was their first child born?
Thanks

Not sure on death im looking into it now, but Adams and Spencer are common names to sift through! I think I may have found her born in Malvern Link in 1887 but have no way of varifying that yet.

SPENCER, Fredrick Boarder Married M 48 1863 Basket Maker Gt Comberton VIEW
SPENCER, Mary Ann Wife Married27 years F 59 1852 Laundress Askberberton VIEW
ADAMS, Elisabeth Daughter Married F 25 1886 Laundress Malvern VIEW

RG number: RG14 Piece: 17652 Reference: RG14PN17652 RG78PN1080A RD378 SD1 ED5 SN83 Registration District: Upton on Severn Sub District: Malvern Enumeration District: 5 Parish: Great Malvern Address: 6 Roslyn Place Newtown Road North Malvern County: Worcestershire

Just a maybe. She's been married 1 year on the image.
1911 census transcription details for: 6 Roslyn Place Newtown Road North National Archive Reference:
RG14PN17652 RG78PN1080A RD378 SD1 ED5 SN83
Reg. District: Upton on Severn
Sub District: Malvern
Parish: Great Malvern
Enum. District: 5
Address: 6 Roslyn Place Newtown Road North Malvern
County: Worcestershire

SPENCER, Fredrick Boarder Married M 48 1863 Basket Maker Gt Comberton
SPENCER, Mary Ann Wife Married
27 years F 59 1852 Laundress Askberberton
ADAMS, Elisabeth Daughter Married F 25 1886 Laundress Malvern

Maureen

Is this one of their children?
Births Dec 1912
Adams Frederick J Spencer Upton 6c 510

Elizabeth 1901. Agrees with 1911 already posted

1901 England Census
about Elizabeth Spencer
Name: Elizabeth Spencer
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Frederick Spencer
Mother's name: Margaret Spencer
Gender: Female
Where born: Malvern Link, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Great Malvern
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Upton on Severn
Sub-registration district: Malvern
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 370
Piece: 2784
Folio: 155
Page Number: 55
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Spencer 37
Margaret Spencer 48
Elizabeth Spencer 14
Walter Berry 34


Andy

?
Elizabeth Adams
Birth Date: abt 1886
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1941
Age at Death: 55
Registration district: Upton upon Severn
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 322

I only know them to have had 1 child, My great grandmother Violet Adams born 1917 in malvern but registered as upton on severn, so couldnt comment on if that is right or wrong.

I think I have found Elizabeth in 1901 aged 14 in Malvern putting her birth year as 1887+/- 1? then I have a death record for Elizabeth Adams again in upton on severn, in 1941 aged 55 so year of birth 1886+/-1?

??

1st child born and died?

Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
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Adams Frederick J Spencer Upton 6c 510

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Deaths Mar 1913 (>99%)
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Adams Frederick J 0 Upton 6c 188


Andy

Birth Record
Name Elizabeth Spencer
Year of Registration 1886
Quarter of Registration Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Upton on Severn
Registration County Worcestershire
Mother's maiden name
Volume Number 6C
Volume Page 314

Just rummaging through the possibles

1st Royal Rifle Reserve Regiment And 4th Oxfordshire Light Infantry Battalions, Portsmouth


ADAMS, John Single M 21 1880 Private
Banbury, Oxfordshire

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ADAMS, John Married ? 31 1880 Islington London VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 34978
Reference: RG14PN34978 RD641 SD3 ED1 SN9999
Registration District:
Sub District:
Enumeration District: 1
Parish:
Address: Jullimdur Junjab India
County: Overseas military

Andy

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Name: ADAMS, Francis J
Registration district: Upton on Severn
County: Worcestershire
Year of registration: 1925
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death:45
Volume no: 6C Page no: 144