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I am trying to find Army Records for Sidney George Washington Spencer Sargent ... his birth was registered in 1882 at Richmond [SARGENT Sidney George W]

Sidney married in 1917 [copy of marriage cert is on ancestry and shows his name as Sidney Spencer Sargent] .... his occupation was given as Soldier.

I assumed he served in HMF during WW1 .... He was alive after the war and his first child was born in 1923.

Sidney is on the 1891 Census living with his mother Matilda Spencer and brother, Victor M Spencer, in Birmingham..... [maiden name Sargent - haven't found any record of a marriage !]

Matilda [Sargent] married in 1893 to William Jessop. The 1901 census shows William, Matilda and son Maurice Jessop aged 4 living in Battersea. I can't find any record for Sidney and his brother Victor.

Would some kind person have a look for me please?

Kind regards
Angie

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Sidney Spencer Sargent
Name: Sidney Spencer Sargent
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Spouse Name: Lily Elizabeth Dunlop
Spouse Age: 35
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 05 May 1917
Parish: St Stephen the Martyr, Hampstead
County: London
Borough: Camden
Father Name: George Sargent
Spouse Father Name: Benjamin Robert Dunlop



UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Sidney Sargent
Name: Sidney Sargent
Birth Date: abt 1882
Age: 54
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 12 Jul 1936
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Montreal
[Quebec]
[Le Havre]
Ship Name: Ausonia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Ausonia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Cunard White Star
Official Number: 145970

Also wife Lily


Most of the WW1 records were destroyed by fire. I cant see anything obvious for your man

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Sidney Sargent
Name: Sidney Sargent
Birth Date: abt 1883
Age: 71
Port of Departure: Quebec, Canada
Arrival Date: 7 May 1954
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Quebec
[Le Havre]
Ship Name: Samaria
Search Ship Database: View the 'Samaria' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: The Cunard Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 145923


Also wife Lily 72yrs and an Amelia Sargent 49yrs

Going to; 4 George Eyre Hse Cochrane St Johns W

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Sidney Sargint
Name: Sidney Sargint
Gender: Male
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Date of Arrival: 15 Apr 1906
Vessel: Kensington
Search Ship Database: View the 'Kensington' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia and Portland, Maine
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-500

I dont know if this is him as the record is impossible to read?



Atlantic Ports Passenger Lists, 1820-1873 and 1893-1959
about Sidney Sargent
Name: Sidney Sargent
Arrival Date: 1 Apr 1911
Age: 28 Years
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: British (English)
Port of Departure: London, England
Ship Name: Cairnrona
Port of Arrival: Portland, Maine
Friend's Name: N Moran
Last Residence: England
Microfilm Roll Number: 12

Victors marriage;

View Record Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County

Raymond Hill Baines 1906 Wandsworth Greater London, London, Surrey
Nellie Epps 1906 Wandsworth Greater London, London, Surrey
Lilian Alice Michels 1906 Wandsworth Greater London, London, Surrey
Victor Moritz Spencer 1906 Wandsworth Greater London, London, Surrey


Looks like he married Nellie as doing a free general check on the 1911 census shows that This couple married in 1901;

HOUSEHOLD SPENCERS NELLIE F 1880 31 St Albans Hertfordshire
HOUSEHOLD SPENCERS NORMAN M 1908 3 St Albans Hertfordshire
HOUSEHOLD SPENCERS VICTOR M 1884 27 St Albans Hertfordshire



Still haven't found Victor in 1901 though.

EDIT>>>>>>>> His occupation on doing guess work is a CLERK!



Dee x

His death;

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Victor M Spencer
Name: Victor M Spencer
Death Registration Month/Year: 1962
Age at death (estimated): 78
Registration district: Hertford
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 4b
Page: 90


So it looks like he stayed in Hertfordshire


Dee x

1901 England Census
about Victor Spencer
Name: Victor Spencer
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Wandsworth, London, England

Civil Parish: Wandsworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: SOLICITORS CLERK!!

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Wandsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 122
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Sharp 57
Alice Sharp 18
Harry Sharp 13
Lucy Sharp 8
Queenie Sharp 6
Ernest Munday 12
Edward Vines 3
Victor Spencer 19

CarolB, Ginny & Dee

CarolB .....
I am sure of the 1891 Census information - a [very] distant relative has contacted me - she has a letter from Matilda's father in which he mentioned that Matilda had 2 boys and was lving happily with 'Spencer' an old family friend ..... I can only assume that 'Spencer' died ? as Matilda remarried in 1893

Ginny ......
Now I know why I couldn't find Sydney .... looks like he upped and went to live in America/Canada ....... thank you sooo much for the information :)

Dee.....
Thank you for finding Victor for me.

Ladies ...... you are 3 very amazing people - I can't thank you enough for taking the time to trawl through records for me - it is very much appreciated

Kind regards

Angie

British Army Service Records 1760-1913 Transcription

First name(s): Sydney

Last name: SPENCER

Calculated year of birth: 1883

Parish of birth: Richmond

Town of birth: Richmond

County of birth: Surrey

Age at attestation: 18 years 7 months

Attestation date: 12 January 1901

Attestation corps: ROYAL FLD ARTILLERY

Attestation soldier number: 13808

Discharge rank:

Discharge corps:

Discharge soldier number:

The National Archives reference: WO97 / 5972 / 114



Brother - V Spencer, 21 Talesbury(?) Road, Wandsworth
Mother - Matilda Jessop, 106 Melody(?) Road, Wandsworth (which has been crossed out) - new address is - 16 Alexandra Road, East Worthing, Sussex



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