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redhotmama

redhotmama Report 25 Apr 2011 13:30

I have a birth cert which has thrown up more questions than answers.Can anybody help sort it out.
The information on the cert is as follows

Reg dist Croydon.

30th April 1943 Erica Phyllis (girl)
Father:Eric Whan Mason
Mother: Phyllis Calkin otherwise Mason,formerly Kingham.

Both parents registered the birth and were living at the same address in Croydon at the time but we can find no trace of Phyllis under any of her surnames although we have been given a possible dob of 1921.
We know a bit more about Eric such as his dob ,26 Oct 1903 in Camberwell, and a record of him returning to England from Nigeria in 1930.
Any suggestions please.

Susan

Susan Report 25 Apr 2011 13:56

Does this connect


England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Erica P Calkin
Name: Erica P Calkin
Mother's Maiden Surname: Kingham
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1943
Registration district: Croydon
Registration county: Surrey,Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 1465

redhotmama

redhotmama Report 25 Apr 2011 14:00

Hi Susan,

Yes that is the entry that goes with the cert I have which has caused all the confusion.

Susan

Susan Report 25 Apr 2011 14:03

There are a few to choose from but this one is close to the date of birth you mentioned..

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Phyllis Joan Kingham
Name: Phyllis Joan Kingham
Birth Date: 26 Jan 1920
Death Registration Month/Year: May 1984
Age at death (estimated): 64
Registration district: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 20
Page: 601

jax

jax Report 25 Apr 2011 14:03

Do you know who Erica is? is she alive still?

jax

K

K Report 25 Apr 2011 14:08

There is a previous child with the same parents surnames - Apologies - Calkin and Kingham

Name: Rex A Calkin
Mother's Maiden Surname: Kingham
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1932
Registration district: Croydon
Registration county: Surrey,Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 626

redhotmama

redhotmama Report 25 Apr 2011 14:08

Sadly no. Her son has been researching the family tree and found out that his mum was adopted almost from birth and these details are all that he has been able to find.

Thanks Sue that does look promising...at least it's more than I had 30 mins ago.

redhotmama

redhotmama Report 25 Apr 2011 14:14

Sue,have had a quick look at birth records and there is nothing for a Phyllis Joan in 1920 under the surname Kingham or Calkin.

Thanks K....wonder what happened to him.

jax

jax Report 25 Apr 2011 14:15

??

Name: Phyllis Calkin
Birth Date: abt 1906
Age: 32
Port of Departure: Buenos Aires, Argentina
Arrival Date: 15 Aug 1938
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Buenos Aires
[Santos]
[Rio de Janeiro]
Ship Name: Asturias
Search Ship Database: View the 'Asturias' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Royal Mail Lines Ltd
Official Number: 148146


Travelling with Arthur Charles b.1892 living in Thornton Heath Surrey

Susan

Susan Report 25 Apr 2011 14:23



The record re Phyllis Joan came from Ancestry,but I must admit I can't find a birth to match that death record .
So this Phyliis is only a Kingham by marriage .

Will have a lok around a bit longer for you.
Sue

redhotmama

redhotmama Report 25 Apr 2011 14:24

Jax,

Interesting find,The dob is a better match certainly.

jax

jax Report 25 Apr 2011 14:27

He was a musician maybe they were not from this country not seeing him leaving again or death at the moment

jax

redhotmama

redhotmama Report 25 Apr 2011 14:34


Jax,

Arthur Charles Calkin bn 1892 in Camberwell according to records

redhotmama

redhotmama Report 25 Apr 2011 14:37

Jax,

The 1911 census shows him as single and stationed at The Citadel,Cairo with the military,

jax

jax Report 25 Apr 2011 14:41

Name: Arthur Charles Calkin
Birth Date: 8 Apr 1892
Death Registration Month/Year: 1974
Registration district: Brentwood
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 9
Page: 1363

Name: Phyllis Calkin
Birth Date: 28 Jul 1906
Death Registration Month/Year: Jun 1988
Age at death (estimated): 81
Registration district: Brentwood
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 9
Page: 1577

so maybe not? would help if I looked under deaths lol

jax

jax Report 25 Apr 2011 14:52

Name: Phyllis Kingham
Year of Registration: 1906
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
DISTRICT: Camberwell
COUNTY: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 823 (click to see others on page)


Name: Arthur Charles Calkin
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
DISTRICT: Camberwell
COUNTY: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 878 (click to see others on page)

Maybe Arthur was away with war duties and phyllis had a fling with Mr Mason while he was away???

redhotmama

redhotmama Report 25 Apr 2011 14:55

Hi Jax,

Possibly not unless she had an affair with Eric Whan Mason and that is why the baby was adopted ???

It's a thought !!!!

jax

jax Report 25 Apr 2011 14:57

I just edited my post as you were posting cannot see a marriage but it all ties up nicely

jax

jax

jax Report 25 Apr 2011 15:02

It looks like Rex ended up in the Brentwood area...he may still be living??

can only see him on 192.co up until 2002 so he may have died in the last 5 years

jax

redhotmama

redhotmama Report 25 Apr 2011 15:06

Jax,

You are a star. So both born in Camberwell. Now if we could just find a marriage record to tie it all together that would be great.

Many thanks for all this info