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Horatio Charles Skinner was born in Chatham, Kent in 1865. He was the son of Arthur Skinner and Sarah Gamserd. He married in the Medway area in 1stQ 1891, but who?
possible wives Jacob Edith Sarah Medway 2a 824
Stone Charlotte Caroline J Medway 2a 824
I cannot find any trace of him after his marriage until his death in 1933 in West Ham .
Can anyone find him on the 1891,1901 or 1911 census? Did he have any children?
Katie

According to a tree on Ancestry he married Charlotte Carolyn Jane Stone b1871 (no proof provided)

Best way is to buy the certificate.

1911 census - household transcription
Person: SKINNER, Charlotte
Address: 12 Brunner Road Walthamstow

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SKINNER, Charles Head Married
20 years M 45 1866 Stoker Chatham Kent VIEW
SKINNER, Charlotte Wife M 39 1872 Finisher Chatham Kent VIEW
SKINNER, Charles Son M 15 1896 General Labourer Chathams Kent VIEW
SKINNER, Arthur Son M 13 1898 School Chathams Kent VIEW
SKINNER, William Son M 9 1902 School Walthamstow EX VIEW
SKINNER, George Son M 6 1905 School Walthamstow EX VIEW
SKINNER, Alfred Son M 4 1907 School Walthamstow EX VIEW
SKINNER, Lily Daughter F 19 1892 Laundry Hand Chatham Kent VIEW
SKINNER, Arthur Son M 17 1894 Tailors Errand Boy Chatham Kent VIEW
SKINNER, Bertie Son M 1 1910 Walthamstow EX VIEW
SKINNER, John Son M 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 Walthamstow EX VIEW

1901
Name: Chas Skinner
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Carry Skinner
Gender: Male
Where born: Chatham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Walthamstow
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
Town: Walthamstow
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Walthamstow
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Chas Skinner 35
Carry Skinner 30
Chas Skinner 5
Arthur Skinner 2

Very strange on the 1911 they had 9 children but 4 had died but they still included them it seems.

It looks like the last 4 children mentioned died in infancy even though two of them had jobs....um very strange

jax

Odd Jax, I wonder if they meant 5 still at home? There are occupations/scholar status given , which there surely wouldn't be if they really had died.

As you say jax very strange, I'll have to sort out who is alive and who is dead! They all seem to have "occupations"... It does look like him though.
He was convicted of rape in the 1880s - perhaps that's why he started using his second name.
Katie

Well there are two Arthurs MC and the elder Arthur and lily are not on the 1901 either

jax

I have seen dead children on the census before not this many though

1891?

SKINNER, Charles Head Married M 25 1866 Gas Labourer Northfleet Kent
SKINNER, Charlotte Wife Married F 19 1872 Kennington London

RG number: RG12 Piece: 664 Folio: 107 Page: 43

Registration District: Medway Sub District: Gillingham Enumeration District: 39 Ecclesiastical Parish: Christchurch Luton

Civil Parish: Chatham Municipal Borough: Chatham Address: 11, White Horse Hill, Chatham County: Kent

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Deaths Jun 1894 (>99%)
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Skinner Arthur 0 Medway 2a 322

Deaths Sep 1892 (>99%)
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Skinner Lily Caroline J 0 Medway 2a 311

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Deaths Mar 1910 (>99%)
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.Skinner John Henry 0 West Ham 4a 198

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Getting an error message when I try to look at the image

Is Ex next to the deceased children?
That makes 5 Dead .

No I think that means Essex I was born in Walthamstow which was Essex in those days LK

jax

Thanks for helping me to start unravelling all of this! I am still struggling with Alfred.
Has anyone got any idea why the dead children have been given occupations when all died in infancy?
I can hopefully check the Chatham baptisms but are West Ham ones included on the Ancestry London baptisms? I don't have access to this.
Katie

Walthamstow is'nt covered in the London Baptisms as I have found with my own family.
I does seem strange to include these children if they had died, but stranger things have happened on these forms

jax

I Know that... and as West Ham came under Essex too it is not included in the London Baptisms

jax

Just a thought
What if they read the question as how many children alive/
How man children have died?

There are 8 children on here so there is still one missing

So who died?

I am at work so cannot follow through-sorry

There is nine LK think you need to go to spec savers lol

They would'nt have two children called Arthur either so the eldest one must have died

jax

Ok Jax
LOL I was having a bad day.

If neither Arthur 1894 or Lily are on 1901 they must have died as babes.
A real puzzle this.

Thats why I posted those deaths which could possably be them?

Lily's birth

Births Dec 1891 (>99%)
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Skinner Lily Caroline J Medway 2a 592

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with the same middle names as her mother so looks like a dead cert for this one
Not seeing an Arthur in Medway though one in Malling is that close by?