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does anyone have any info on the marriage of william j strong and frances strong, They are on 1891 and 1901 census in Yatton herefordshire with daughters mary j and emily louisa(1891) and just emily on 1901 Ithink the marriage was about 1870 but i cannot find details, ann

For ref, is this the family in 1881?

Name: William G. Strong
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Frances Strong
Gender: Male
Where born: Ross, Hereford, England

Civil parish: Ross
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England

Street Address: Kyrle Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Shoemaker

Registration district: Ross
Sub-registration district: Ross
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William G. Strong 39
Frances Strong 42
Frances E. Strong 12
Mary J. Strong 8
Rosannah Strong 5
Emily L. Strong

Christine

This birth cert will give you the mmn.

Births Sep 1875 (>99%)
Strong Rosanna Ross 6a 470

Christine

Reg. District: Ross Sub District: Sollershope
Parish: Upton Bishop Enum. District: 2
Address: Crowhill Upton Bishop Ross Hereford
County: Herefordshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born


STRONG, William George Head Married M 69 1842 Gardening Jobbing Herefordshire Ross
STRONG, Frances Wife Married
39 years F 77 1834 Glos Cheltenham

Hi. William and Frances are on the 1881 census although their ages vary and his occupation.

William. 36. 1842 born Ross
Frances 42 1839 Born Cheltenham
Frances E 12 1869 Born Ross
Mary J. 8 1873 Born Ross
Rosannah 5 1876 Born Ross
Emily L. 0 1881 Born Ross.

You need a copy of one of the birth certiicates to give the name of Frances before marriage. Ethel.

I

I have a 'feeling about this marriage, it is around the correct time.
maybe William was using his middle name| (this happens very often)

Marriages Jun 1872

Chambers James Percival P Ross 6a 847
**PARRY Fanny Ross 6a 847
SMITH Elizabeth Anne Ross 6a 847
**Strong George Ross 6a 847

I then looked for a Frances or Fanny Parry and found this one who was born in the right place
and at the right time:

1871 England Census
about Eliza Parry Name: Eliza Parry
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: Ross, Herefordshire, England
Civil parish: Ross
Ecclesiastical parish: Ross
Town: Ross
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Ross
Sub-registration district: Ross
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 221a
Household Members: Name Age

Harriet Parry 6
Eliza Parry 3 ** (This could well be Frances E Strong from 1881) ??

(I have taken the other inmates off as not connected)


at Ross Union Workhouse

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2686; Folio: 66; Page: 38; GSU roll: 835340.

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ALSO - In the same Workhouse, although the children and the adults are listed
seperately so they are not on same page:

1871 England Census
about Francis Parry Name: Francis Parry *****
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Ross
Ecclesiastical parish: Ross
Town: Ross
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Ross
Sub-registration district: Ross
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 121a

I think she is marked as unmarried but this is not clear.

I believe this could well be 'your' people ??

Have to go just now but perhaps you could follow it back further and cross-check?

Dea x

Yes, she was single - these are the two christenings for her daughters - no fathers' named :

Name: Harriet Anne Hope Parry
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 10 Feb 1867
Baptism/Christening Place: ROSS, HEREFORD, ENGLAND

Father's Name: Frances Parry (This should be the mother, not the father!)


Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13951-2
System Origin: England-VR
Source Film Number: 1040022
Reference Number: - 2:2ZZMTKH
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

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Name: Francis Elizabeth Parry
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 30 Aug 1868
Baptism/Christening Place: ROSS ON WYE, HEREFORD, ENGLAND

Mother's Name: Fanny Parry

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13951-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1040022
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

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There is another one too ???

Name: William Hope Gough Parry
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 1863
Baptism/Christening Place: ROSS, HEREFORDSHIRE, ENGLAND

Mother's Name: Frances Parry

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13536-3
System Origin: England-VR
Source Film Number: 1040021
Reference Number: - 2:2JXS3P7
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Dea x

William was 'George' on at least some of his children's christenings:

Name: Mary Jane Strong
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 29 Aug 1875
Baptism/Christening Place: ROSS ON WYE, HEREFORD, ENGLAND

Father's Name: George Strong
Mother's Name: Frances

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13951-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1040022
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

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Daughter Rosannah christened at the same time !!!!!!!!!

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Name: Geage Henry Strong
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 1878
Baptism/Christening Place: ROSS, HEREFORD, ENGLAND

Father's Name: George Strong
Mother's Name: Frances

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13951-5
System Origin: England-VR
Source Film Number: 1040022
Reference Number: - 2:2TD6W7X
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
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Name: Emily Louisa Strong
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 27 Aug 1880
Baptism/Christening Place: ROSS ON WYE, HEREFORD, ENGLAND

Father's Name: George Strong
Mother's Name: Frances

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13951-5
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1040022
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
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I think this now proves that we have the right marriage and spouse for your
William George Strong !!!!!!!!!

I will leave you to explore the rest but do ask on here if you need any more help.

Dea Xxx

GEORGE STRONG Pedigree
Male Family

Parents:
Father: WILLIAM STRONG Family

Marriages:
Spouse: FANNY PARRY Family
Marriage: 29 MAY 1872 Ross On Wye, Hereford, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

Thank's Mel - was just going to post that (tee hee) !

Dea x

P.S. - I MUST go and do some work now !

Dea Xxx

1861 England Census
about George Strong Name: George Strong
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Apprentice
Gender: Male
Where born: Hereford, Herefordshire, England

Civil parish: Fownhope
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Hereford
Sub-registration district: Fownhope
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Taylor 51 CORDWAINER= Shoemaker*******
Eliza Taylor 51
Louisa Taylor 18
George Strong 17 APPRENTICE********
Samuel Swanton 19

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about George Strong Name: George Strong
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 64
District: Ross
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester
Volume: 6a
Page: 293

Mel,

That can't be his death as he was still around for the 1911 census aged 69 ???

Unless the 1911 posted above is not the right one?

Dea x

EDIT: - this will be the correct death:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about William G Strong Name: William G Strong
Death Registration Month/Year: 1924
Age at death (estimated): 80
Registration district: Ross
Inferred County: Herefordshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 428

Dea x

Frances lived to a 'good age' also - I think this must be her although the age is slightly out:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Frances Strong Name: Frances Strong
Death Registration Month/Year: 1927
Age at death (estimated): 92
Registration district: Ross
Inferred County: Herefordshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 777

Dea x